Arachin 20a
ערכין כ׳ ע״א
Arakhin 20a
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Topic
Assessing a person's value (דמים) versus fixed ערכין: heirs, body parts, 'half' pledges, and pledges on vessels.
Overview
The amud opens by finishing a chain of questions about pledging one's own market value (דמים): two separate pledges, one pledge of 'twice my value', and an assessment the court made on its own. A proof from a משנה about a person who pledged his value and died is brought and then pushed off, so that question stays unresolved. Then a new משנה teaches that ערכין are stricter than דמים in one way: heirs pay a ערך after the pledger dies, but not דמים, because the dead have no value. The משנה also covers pledging the ערך of a limb, of a vital organ, of 'half my ערך' versus 'the ערך of half of me', and of another person's value. The גמרא explains that heirs pay a ערך only when the pledger stood in judgment, while דמים still needs an assessment. It brings רב's ruling that pledging a limb's ערך obligates its value according to רבי מאיר. It gives the פסוק sources for the vital-organ rule for both ערכין and דמים, and explains רבי יוסי ברבי יהודה's 'lashes' as a rabbinic penalty. Finally, אביי and רבא explain why the חכמים void a pledge of half a כלי's ערך, and the גמרא shows why the משנה repeats its clause about another person's value.
Opening lines
בְּחַד זִימְנָא אָמְדִינַן לֵיהּ,
Do we assess him one time,
אוֹ דִלְמָא כֵּיוָן דִּבְזֶה אַחַר זֶה נָדַר,
or perhaps, since he vowed one after the other,
תְּרֵי זִימְנֵי אָמְדִינַן לֵיהּ?
we assess him two times?
וְאִם תִּמְצָא לוֹמַר:
And if you say:
The steps (41)
- QuestionTwo separate value pledges: one assessment or two?
- QuestionSaying "twice my value" in one statement
- QuestionSomeone already assessed for another reason
- ProofStarting to resolve one question from a משנה
- ProofEveryone is worth at least four זוזים
- RejectionA real assessment is different from none at all
- StatementValuations are stricter than vows of value
- StatementPledging the valuation of a body part
- StatementHalf of my value versus the value of half of me
- StatementPledging someone else's value when someone dies
- StatementWays vows of worth are stricter than ערכין
- StatementThe one way ערכין are stricter than vows of worth
- ProofTrying to prove that an oral loan is collected from heirs
- RejectionA ערך is different because it is a debt written in the Torah
- ProofTrying to prove that a Torah debt counts like a document
- RejectionThe ברייתא is a case where he already stood in court
- ChallengeThen why don't heirs pay דמים after a court ruling?
- Resolutionדמים still needs a value estimate, while a ערך is fixed
- Statementרב: whoever pledges the ערך of a hand or leg still pays its worth
- ChallengeBut the משנה says he said nothing
- ResolutionThe משנה follows the רבנן, רב follows רבי מאיר
- ChallengeDidn't רב already say this about a vessel?
- ResolutionWith a limb we might think he simply made a mistake
- QuestionWhy does pledging the head or liver mean the whole valuation?
- ResponseThe Torah speaks of 'lives'
- StatementThe general rule includes the leg from the knee up
- StatementA dispute about pledging half of one's ערך
- ChallengeWhy would he be lashed?
- Resolution'Lashed' means penalized by paying the full ערך
- QuestionWhy does 'the דמים of half of me' cost the whole value?
- ResponseA פסוק links pledges of value to ערך
- StatementThe משנה's general rule adds the leg from the knee up
- StatementA ברייתא about pledging half the ערך of a utensil
- StatementAt רבא's sickbed, רבי מאיר's reasoning is explained
- ChallengeChallenge: the חכמים' view seems inconsistent
- ResolutionThe חכמים agree with both רבי מאיר and רבי שמעון
- ResolutionLike רבי שמעון: nobody donates half a כלי
- QuestionWhich case does the משנה mean?
- ResponseHe had already stood in judgment
- ChallengeIsn't this the same as the earlier clause?
- ResolutionThe clause was needed for its last part, about דמים