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Avodah Zarah 65a

עבודה זרה ס״ה ע״א

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Topic

Festival gifts to non-Jews who do not serve idols, and wages or rental fees connected to יין נסך.

Overview

The amud opens with רב יהודה, who sent a gift to a non-Jew named אבידרנא on his festival day because he knew the man does not serve idols. רב יוסף challenges him twice from the laws of a גר תושב, and רב יהודה answers both challenges. Next, רבא sends a gift to בר שישך for the same reason. Their talk turns into a debate about whether עולם הבא can beat worldly pleasure, and the story ends with בר שישך's own curse striking him. רב פפי and רב נחמן בר יצחק then suggest פסוקים that רבא could have quoted. The גמרא returns to the משנה and asks when a worker's wage stays permitted if he was also asked to move יין נסך. אביי and רבא give two answers, and a ברייתא supports רבא. The גמרא then discusses renting a donkey: a jug the renter adds does not change the fee, and it explains what the renter and the donkey driver may each load. The amud ends as a new story about the father of רב אחא בריה דרב איקא begins.

Opening lines

לַאֲבִידַרְנָא בְּיוֹם אֵידָם,

to Avidarna on their festival day.

אָמַר: יָדַעְנָא בֵּיהּ

He said: I know about him

דְּלָא פָּלַח לַעֲבוֹדָה זָרָה.

that he does not worship idols.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב יוֹסֵף:

Rav Yosef said to him:

The steps (30)

  1. Statementרב יהודה's gift to אבידרנא
  2. Challengeרב יוסף: a גר תושב needs a formal acceptance
  3. ResolutionThat rule is about supporting him
  4. ChallengeA גר תושב who did not circumcise is like a מין
  5. ResolutionOnly when he promised to circumcise and didn't
  6. Statementרבא sends a gift to בר שישך
  7. Statementרבא finds him in luxury
  8. QuestionDo you have this in the World to Come?
  9. ResponseOurs is better
  10. ChallengeCan anything beat this?
  11. ResponseNo fear of the government
  12. ChallengeWhat fear do I have?
  13. ProofThe king's officer arrives
  14. ConclusionThe curse turns back on בר שישך
  15. Statementרב פפי offers a better verse for רבא
  16. Statementרב נחמן בר יצחק offers another verse
  17. StatementBack to the משנה: hired for other work
  18. ChallengeA ברייתא says only toward evening
  19. Resolutionאביי: the משנה also means toward evening
  20. Resolutionרבא: it depends on how he is paid
  21. ProofA ברייתא supports רבא's distinction
  22. StatementThe משנה's case of a donkey rented to carry יין נסך
  23. ChallengeWhy does the משנה repeat the same rule?
  24. ResolutionThe line is there for the riding case that follows
  25. QuestionDoes a renter have no right to load a jug?
  26. ChallengeA ברייתא says a renter may load his jug
  27. Resolutionאביי: The Fee Doesn't Change Because of the Jug
  28. ChallengeWhen Does the Renter-Driver Difference Make Sense?
  29. Resolutionרב פפא: Food Can Be Bought, but It Takes Effort
  30. StatementA New Story Begins: The Father of רב אחא