Avodah Zarah 75b
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Topic
How far טומאה spreads in a winepress, and how to make utensils bought from a גוי fit for use: טבילה, הגעלה, ליבון, and which utensils need them.
Overview
The amud opens by finishing the rules for preparing woven winepress items, then brings a מחלוקת between רבי and רבי חייא about how far טומאה spreads when an עם הארץ touches grapes in a winepress. The גמרא defends the lenient view, saying the grape clusters block the wine, and rules that way in practice. A new משנה teaches that utensils bought from גוים are prepared the way they were used: טבילה, הגעלה, or ליבון. The גמרא adds that all of them also need טבילה in forty סאה, and learns this from the words וְטָהֵר and בְּמֵי נִדָּה, explaining why both words are needed. Next it sets limits. Even new utensils need טבילה, but only meal utensils, only ones that were bought and not borrowed, and only metal ones. Glass is treated like metal, and the הלכה is that glazed clay follows its finished form. A question about collateral utensils stays unresolved. Finally, a ברייתא lists four levels of koshering, two ברייתות disagree about food cooked before koshering, and the גמרא ties this to נותן טעם לפגם. רב חייא בריה דרב הונא begins answering how the Torah's ban still applies, and his answer continues on the next amud.
Opening lines
דְּצַבְתָּא — לְנַגְּבָן,
Those of tzavta — one must cleanse them;
דְּכִיתָּנָא — מְיַשְּׁנָן,
those of flax — one must leave them unused for a while;
וְאִי אִית בְּהוּ קִיטְרֵי — שָׁרֵי לְהוּ.
and if they have knots — one must untie them.
אִיתְּמַר: עַם הָאָרֶץ שֶׁהוֹשִׁיט יָדוֹ לַגַּת
It was stated: an am ha'aretz who reached his hand into the winepress
The steps (30)
- StatementFinishing the list: how to purify woven items of צבתא and flax
- StatementAn עם הארץ touches grape clusters in a winepress
- ChallengeChallenge from the case of a שרץ in a press
- ResolutionThe grape clusters block the flow
- ConclusionThe final ruling on the winepress
- StatementHow to prepare utensils bought from gentiles
- StatementAll the utensils also need immersion
- QuestionWhere do we learn this from?
- Responseרבא: the word "and it shall be pure" adds immersion
- Responseבר קפרא: "מי נדה", but no sprinkling
- ResponseWater a נדה immerses in means forty סאה
- ResponseWhy 'וטהר' alone would not be enough
- ResponseWhy 'במי נדה' alone would not be enough
- StatementEven new utensils need טבילה
- ChallengeThen even clothing scissors should need טבילה
- ResolutionOnly meal utensils are in the פרשה
- StatementOnly bought utensils need immersion, not borrowed ones
- Statementרב יצחק בר יוסף buys an earthenware utensil
- Rejectionרבי יעקב: only metal utensils need immersion
- StatementGlass utensils are treated like metal
- StatementDispute over glazed clay utensils
- ConclusionThe halacha follows the final state
- QuestionWhat about a utensil held as collateral?
- Responseרב אשי immersed a collateral silver cup
- RejectionThe reason for immersing is unclear
- StatementFour levels of preparing utensils bought from a גוי
- ChallengeTwo ברייתות disagree about food cooked before koshering
- ResolutionEach ברייתא follows a different view on a bad-tasting flavor
- ChallengeWhy does the Torah require koshering if a spoiling taste is permitted?
- ResolutionThe Torah only forbade a pot