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Bava Basra 87b

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Bava Batra 87b

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Topic

Drained drops and the storekeeper on ערב שבת, and a child sent shopping who breaks the jug and loses the change

Overview

This amud opens with a question from a משנה about תרומה, which says that the drops drained from a tilted vessel count as תרומה. The answer, in the name of רבי אבהו, is that in an ordinary sale the seller keeps those last drops only because the buyer gives up hope on them (יאוש בעלים). Next, the גמרא asks whether רבי יהודה's ruling about a חנווני on ערב שבת is a קולא or a חומרא. A ברייתא shows it is a חומרא: the storekeeper is excused only at nightfall on ערב שבת, because he is busy then. Then a new משנה brings a new case. A father sends his young son to a storekeeper, and the boy breaks the jug and loses the change. The חכמים make the storekeeper pay, and רבי יהודה exempts him. The גמרא asks why the storekeeper should pay for a jug the father himself gave to a child. רב הושעיא and then רבה and רב יוסף each explain the case, but each explanation is challenged. The amud ends as אביי בר אבין and רבי חנינא בר אבין begin a new explanation, which continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

וְהָתְנַן, הִרְכִּינָהּ וּמִיצָּהּ –

But didn't we learn: If he tilted it and drained it,

הֲרֵי זוֹ תְּרוּמָה!

this is תרומה!

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: הָא אִיתְּמַר עֲלַהּ,

He said to him: But wasn't it said about it,

אָמַר רַבִּי אֲבָהוּ:

Rabbi Abbahu said:

The steps (11)

  1. ChallengeA question from the משנה about drained-out תרומה
  2. ResolutionThe answer: the buyer gives up hope on tiny drops
  3. QuestionIs רבי יהודה being lenient or strict?
  4. ResponseA ברייתא shows רבי יהודה is being strict
  5. StatementThe new משנה: a child sent to the storekeeper breaks the jug and loses the change
  6. ChallengeWhy would the storekeeper pay for the father's own jug?
  7. Resolutionרב הושעיא: the father was selling the jug, and the storekeeper took it to examine
  8. ChallengeWould שמואל's ruling then depend on an argument between תנאים?
  9. Resolutionרבה and רב יוסף: the storekeeper sold the jug too
  10. ChallengeThe last clause of the משנה does not fit the explanation of רבה and רב יוסף
  11. ResolutionA new explanation begins from אביי בר אבין and רבי חנינא בר אבין