Bava Basra 88b
בבא בתרא פ״ח ע״ב
Bava Batra 88b
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Topic
The seller's extra weight (הכרעה and גירומין), and רבי לוי's teachings on false measures, theft and blessings
Overview
The משנה teaches that a seller must tilt the scale a טפח in the buyer's favor. If he weighed exactly, he must add extra amounts (גירומין). Local custom also decides how goods are measured. The גמרא first brings ריש לקיש's source, ״וצדק״, for the tilting. It then concludes that tilting is only local custom, and that ריש לקיש's פסוק really teaches the גירומין. רב gives the liquid rate as a tenth of a ליטרא per ten ליטרין, and the dry-goods rate stays a תיקו. Then come teachings of רבי לוי. Cheating with measures is harsher than עריות because it cannot be fixed through תשובה. Robbing a person is worse than robbing הקדש. ה׳ blessed ישראל with twenty-two letters and cursed with only eight, while משה רבינו did the opposite.
Opening lines
וְחַיָּיב לְהַכְרִיעַ לוֹ טֶפַח.
And he is obligated to tilt [the scale] for him a handbreadth.
הָיָה שׁוֹקֵל לוֹ עַיִן בְּעַיִן,
If he was weighing for him exactly,
נוֹתֵן לוֹ גֵּירוּמִין.
he gives him extra amounts.
אֶחָד לַעֲשָׂרָה בַּלַּח,
one for ten with liquids,
The steps (22)
- StatementThe seller tilts the scale; if he weighed exactly, he adds extra
- StatementMeasuring must follow local custom
- QuestionWhere does the tilting rule come from?
- Responseריש לקיש: "Be righteous with your own"
- ChallengeIf tilting is a Torah law, how can he weigh exactly?
- ResolutionTilting is only local custom
- Statementריש לקיש's פסוק moves to the גירומין
- QuestionHow much are the extra amounts?
- Responseרב: a tenth of a ליטרא per ten ליטרין
- QuestionHow should the משנה's numbers be read?
- ConclusionThe question stays unanswered
- StatementFalse measures are punished more harshly than עריות
- QuestionHow do we know אל means harshness?
- ResponseProof from "the mighty of the land"
- ChallengeBut עריות also has the word אלה
- ResolutionThe אלה by עריות comes to leave out measures from כרת
- ChallengeThen what makes measures harsher?
- ResolutionMeasures are harsher because תשובה is not possible
- StatementRobbing a person is worse than robbing הקדש
- Statementהקדוש ברוך הוא blessed with twenty-two and cursed with eight
- StatementExplaining the twenty-two and the eight letters
- Statementמשה רבינו did the opposite