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Bava Metzia 111a

בבא מציעא קי״א ע״א

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Topic

Paying workers on time: middlemen, day and night workers, עושק versus גזל, and the משנה on ביומו תתן שכרו and בל תלין

Overview

This amud starts by finishing a ברייתא about a middleman who hires workers for someone else. If he tells them 'your pay is on the owner,' neither he nor the owner violates בל תלין, and אמוראים actually hired workers this way. רבה בר רב הונא adds that the market merchants of סורא do not violate בל תלין, because everyone knows they pay on market day, but they do violate בל תשהא if they wait longer. Next, רב and שמואל argue about when a night hourly worker must be paid, and רב's view is defended as matching רבי יהודה in a ברייתא. That ברייתא lists five לאוין and one עשה for withholding wages, and רב חסדא explains that the list covers the whole topic, not one single act. The גמרא then asks how עושק differs from גזל: רב חסדא, רב ששת and אביי each define them, and רבא says they are really the same act listed twice to add a second לאו. A new משנה follows: wages for people, animals and utensils all fall under both prohibitions, but only when the worker demanded payment. A worker who claims on time swears and collects, and a גר תושב gets only ביומו תתן שכרו. The גמרא begins asking whose view this משנה follows and starts quoting a ברייתא, which continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

וְזֶה, לְפִי שֶׁאֵין פְּעוּלָּתוֹ אֶצְלוֹ.

And this one, because his work is not for him.

הֵיכִי דָמֵי?

What is the case?

אִי דַּאֲמַר לְהוּ שְׂכַרְכֶם עָלַי –

If he said to them: your pay is on me,

שְׂכָרוֹ עָלָיו הוּא,

then the pay is his responsibility,

The steps (30)

  1. StatementWhy the middleman is exempt
  2. ChallengeIf the middleman promised to pay, he should be responsible
  3. ResolutionHe said the pay is on the owner
  4. Statementאמוראים who used this method in practice
  5. StatementThe market merchants of סורא who pay on market day
  6. Statementרב and שמואל disagree about the night hourly worker
  7. ChallengeThe משנה seems to refute רב
  8. Resolutionרב reads the משנה as two separate cases
  9. ChallengeA second משנה clearly gives the night worker the next day too
  10. Resolutionרב: this is a dispute between תנאים
  11. StatementWithholding wages breaks five prohibitions and one positive command
  12. ChallengeDay prohibitions and night prohibitions cannot all apply together
  13. ResolutionThe list describes the general topic of wages
  14. QuestionWhat is the difference between עושק and גזל?
  15. Responseרב חסדא: putting him off versus openly refusing
  16. Challengeרב ששת: the תורה's עושק must involve denying the debt
  17. Responseרב ששת: 'I already paid you' is עושק
  18. Challengeאביי objects that stealing also needs a denial
  19. Responseאביי's definitions: 'I never hired you' versus 'I paid you'
  20. ChallengeWhy did רב ששת object only to oppression?
  21. Resolutionרב ששת's stealing: refusing first, then denying
  22. ChallengeThen oppression could also be admitting and later denying
  23. ResolutionThe verse's wording separates the two cases
  24. Statementרבא: oppression and stealing are the same act
  25. StatementWages for people, animals, and utensils all fall under both prohibitions
  26. StatementHe only transgresses if the worker asked to be paid
  27. StatementA worker who claims on time swears and collects
  28. StatementA גר תושב gets only one of the two prohibitions
  29. QuestionWhose opinion does the משנה follow?
  30. QuestionSetting up the ברייתא