Bava Metzia 118a
בבא מציעא קי״ח ע״א
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Topic
End of the משנה (stones of a fallen wall; paying a פועל with hay and straw) and the opening of the גמרא: the מחלוקת between רב and שמואל on how big a break in the roof of the בית הבד must be, and why that מחלוקת had to be stated in two places.
Overview
The amud opens at the end of a משנה. If a wall falls into a neighbor's garden, its owner cannot force the stones on the neighbor, and an employer cannot force a פועל to take the hay or straw he worked on as pay. But once the other side accepts, the deal cannot be undone. The גמרא then explains the earlier case of a בית הבד whose roof broke: רב says most of it must break, שמואל says four טפחים is enough, and their מחלוקת had to be taught both here and for a house. רבי יוחנן says the court's standard time to remove a danger is thirty days. The גמרא shows that the garden owner gets the stones only if he cleared them, because a field acquires only when the giver truly means to give. It explains why both cases of the משנה were needed. It then settles a contradiction between the משנה and a ברייתא about paying in straw: after רבא knocks down two answers, רב נחמן distinguishes lifting from merely watching. Finally רבה and רבא give different readings of a משנה about guards of שמיטה grain: is the argument about whether watching acquires ownerless property, about trusting an unpaid guard, or about scaring off violent people?
Opening lines
הִגִּיעוּךָ –
They have reached you (they're yours) —
אֵין שׁוֹמְעִין לוֹ.
we do not listen to him.
מִשֶּׁקִּבֵּל עָלָיו
Once he (the garden owner) accepted it upon himself,
אָמַר לוֹ: הֵילָךְ אֶת יְצִיאוֹתֶיךָ,
if he (the wall owner) said to him: Here are your expenses,
The steps (31)
- StatementThe fallen stones: before and after the garden owner accepts them
- StatementPaying a worker with the hay he worked on
- StatementHow big a break counts: רב versus שמואל
- StatementThe reasons behind each view
- StatementWhy the house case alone would not be enough
- ConclusionWhy the olive press case alone would not be enough
- QuestionHow much time does the court give?
- Responseרבי יוחנן: thirty days
- StatementInference: the stones are his only because he cleared them
- ChallengeShouldn't his field acquire the stones for him?
- ResolutionA field acquires only when the giver means to give
- StatementQuoting the straw case and announcing that both cases are needed
- StatementWhy the stones case alone would not teach the straw case
- StatementWhy the straw case alone would not teach the stones case
- ChallengeA ברייתא says the court does listen to the employer
- Resolutionרב נחמן: the employer's own straw versus someone else's
- Challengeרבא: the employer owes the wage even for work on someone else's property
- ProofProof: the employer pays a worker who worked in someone else's field
- Resolutionרב נחמן's new answer: own straw versus ownerless straw
- Challengeרבא: a hired worker's finds go to the employer
- ResolutionFinal answer: lifting the straw versus just watching it
- Statementרבה: Watching Ownerless Property Is a Dispute of תנאים
- ProofThe משנה About Guards of Sabbatical Aftergrowth
- ProofReading the Dispute as About Whether Watching Acquires
- QuestionWhat Did the Rabbis Mean by 'You Say So'?
- ResponseCombining His Ruling With Our View
- Rejectionרבא: Everyone Agrees Watching Acquires; The Worry Is Wholehearted Transfer
- Rejectionרבי יוסי's side of רבא's explanation
- QuestionWhat did the Sages mean by 'you say so'?
- ResponseCombining both views means the offerings are not communal
- StatementSecond version: the payment scares off violent people