Bava Metzia 29b
בבא מציעא כ״ט ע״ב
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Topic
Using found money, caring for found scrolls, garments and vessels, borrowed and deposited Torah scrolls, and רבי יוחנן's practical advice
Overview
The גמרא finishes the earlier משנה by quoting רבה: a finder who is allowed to use the money must pay even if it is taken by armed bandits or lost in a shipwreck. It rules like רבי טרפון, but אביי shows that the permission covers only money a finder earned by caring for a lost object, so רחבה may not use orphans' money. A new משנה then explains how a finder looks after scrolls, garments and vessels, and when he need not pick up an item at all. שמואל rules that found תפילין may be valued and the money set aside, because new תפילין are easy to buy while scrolls are not. A ברייתא gives rules for a borrowed or deposited ספר תורה, and the גמרא explains each line, correcting the view of רבי אליעזר בן יעקב. Next come a contradiction about two people reading one scroll and four answers about whether shaking a garment helps it. The amud ends with practical advice from רבי יוחנן about lukewarm water and about habits that waste an inheritance. The explanation of the last habit continues on the next amud.
Opening lines
כִּדְרַבָּה.
In accordance with Rabba.
דְּאָמַר רַבָּה:
As Rabba said:
״נִגְנְבוּ״ בְּלִסְטִים מְזוּיָּין,
'They were stolen' means by armed bandits;
״אָבְדוּ״ שֶׁטָּבְעָה סְפִינָתוֹ בַּיָּם.
'They were lost' means that his ship sank at sea.
The steps (36)
- ResolutionExplaining 'stolen' and 'lost' through רבה's definition
- StatementThe הלכה follows רבי טרפון
- Questionרחבה asks about using orphans' money
- Responseרב יוסף permits it based on רבי טרפון
- Challengeאביי: the permission only covers money the finder worked for
- Conclusionרב יוסף withdraws his permission
- StatementNew משנה: caring for found scrolls
- StatementCaring for a found garment
- StatementUsing found silver and copper vessels
- StatementGold and glass vessels are left untouched
- StatementItems beneath the finder's dignity
- Statementשמואל: Found תפילין may be valued and the money set aside
- Challengeרבינא's challenge from found scrolls
- Resolutionתפילין are easy to replace, scrolls are not
- StatementRules for borrowing a Torah scroll
- StatementRules for a Torah scroll left for safekeeping
- StatementHow often to roll a new or old scroll
- ChallengeWhy mention a Torah scroll specifically
- ResolutionWhy the ספר תורה case had to be stated
- ChallengeIsn't it obvious that a borrower may read the scroll?
- ResolutionThe real point is the limit on reading
- ChallengeWhy may a guardian read the scroll at all?
- ResolutionReading while rolling is allowed, opening just to read is not
- Challengeרבי אליעזר בן יעקב seems to repeat the תנא קמא
- ResolutionCorrecting רבי אליעזר בן יעקב to thirty days
- ChallengeMay two people read one borrowed scroll together?
- ResolutionSame passage versus different passages
- ChallengeIs shaking out a garment good or bad for it?
- ResolutionEvery day harms, once a month helps
- ResolutionOne person versus two people shaking
- ResolutionShaking by hand helps, shaking with a stick damages
- ResolutionShaking helps wool but damages linen
- StatementLukewarm water is worse than a witch's cup
- StatementThree limits on the lukewarm water warning
- StatementHow to waste a large inheritance
- StatementWhich linen, which glass, and what not watching workers means