Bava Metzia 60a
בבא מציעא ס׳ ע״א
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Topic
Honest selling: mixing produce and wine, fair competition, and not dressing up merchandise
Overview
This amud is about honest selling. The משנה forbids mixing new produce with old, and the ברייתא adds that this holds even when the old produce is the cheaper one. Mixing strong wine into weak wine is allowed because it improves the wine. רבי אלעזר learns from this that every 'באמת אמרו' is settled הלכה, and רב נחמן limits the permission to the winepress stage. The גמרא then explains why people mix wine nowadays: either buyers know and forgive it, or the משנה follows רבי אחא, who allows mixing anything that is tasted before buying. רב יהודה explains that the ban on sediment means sediment from a different day's wine, and a ברייתא supports him. רבא sends obviously diluted wine back to a store, and he defends this against אביי. Where diluting wine is the custom, it is allowed in set amounts, and רב limits this to the winepress stage. A new משנה discusses fair competition and not making goods look better than they are, and the גמרא begins explaining the reasons of the חכמים.
Opening lines
וְאֵין צָרִיךְ לוֹמַר,
And there is no need to say,
חֲדָשִׁים בִּישָׁנִים.
new produce with old produce.
בֶּאֱמֶת אָמְרוּ:
In truth they said:
בְּיַיִן הִתִּירוּ לְעָרֵב קָשֶׁה בְּרַךְ,
with wine, they permitted mixing strong with weak,
The steps (31)
- StatementCertainly not new produce with old
- StatementStrong wine may be mixed with weak wine
- StatementWine sediment: don't add it, but you may leave it
- StatementWatered wine: tell the buyer, and never sell it to a merchant
- StatementWhere watering wine is the custom, it is allowed
- StatementA merchant may combine produce from several sources
- StatementEven cheaper old produce may not be mixed into new
- StatementEvery 'באמת אמרו' is settled הלכה
- StatementThe wine exception applies only in the winepress
- ChallengeWhy do people mix wine nowadays outside the winepress?
- ResolutionBuyers know about it and forgive it
- ResolutionThe משנה follows רבי אחא
- StatementQuoting the משנה's rule on wine sediment
- ChallengeThe two halves of the sediment rule seem to contradict
- ResolutionA suggested answer: he tells the buyer
- RejectionThe last part of the משנה rules out that answer
- Resolutionרב יהודה: no mixing sediment from different days
- ProofA ברייתא of רבי יהודה supports this reading
- StatementWatered wine, and רבא sends diluted wine back to the store
- Challengeאביי: the משנה forbids selling to a merchant
- Resolutionרבא: my dilution is obvious
- ResolutionWorrying about every trick would never end
- StatementWhere diluting is the custom, and how much water
- Statementרב: this was taught for the winepress stage
- StatementHanding out treats to children
- StatementLowering the market price
- StatementSifting ground beans
- StatementNo dressing up items for sale
- QuestionWhy do the חכמים allow handing out treats?
- ResponseEveryone can hand out treats
- QuestionWhy do the חכמים praise lowering prices?