Beitzah 30b

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Topic

Taking wood from a סוכה on יום טוב: the משנה's rule, רבי שמעון's view, and why a condition cannot free the wood of a סוכה built for the חג, which stays holy for all seven days.

Overview

The משנה rules that on יום טוב you may not take wood from a סוכה, only from wood near it. The גמרא asks why taking the nearby wood is not also taking apart a tent, and שמואל and רב מנשיא each define 'near' so that it is not part of the structure. A ברייתא then shows that רבי שמעון permits taking wood even from the סוכה itself. רב נחמן בר יצחק explains that רבי שמעון means a סוכה that already fell and was shaky, so nothing is taken apart and the owner had its wood in mind before יום טוב. The ברייתא also says everyone forbids the wood of a סוכה built for the חג, unless the owner made a condition. The גמרא asks how a condition can work, since a פסוק makes the סוכה holy 'to ה׳' for all seven days. רב מנשיא בריה דרבא answers that the condition only works for an ordinary hut, and אביי and רבא explain that a condition on decorations works only by stopping holiness from ever starting. Finally, the גמרא explains that unlike the אתרוג, whose מצוה stops each night, the סוכה's seven days count as one long day.

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The steps (18)

1. StatementThe משנה: Not from the סוכה, only from beside it
2. ChallengeWhy is wood from near the sukkah any different?
3. Resolutionשמואל: 'Near' means leaning by the walls
4. Resolutionרב מנשיא: Even on the roof, if still tied in bundles
5. StatementA ברייתא: רבי שמעון permits
6. StatementAll agree about a סוכה built for the חג, unless he made a condition
7. ChallengeHow can רבי שמעון allow taking apart a tent?
8. ResolutionThe case is a סוכה that already fell
9. ProofProof: רבי שמעון permits leftover lamp oil
10. RejectionA lamp is expected to go out, a סוכה is not expected to fall
11. ResolutionThe case is a shaky סוכה
12. ChallengeCan a condition work on a סוכה built for the חג?
13. ChallengeThe wood of a סוכה is holy for all seven days
14. ResolutionThe condition applies only to an ordinary hut
15. ChallengeA ברייתא shows a condition works on סוכה decorations
16. ResolutionDecorations can be freed, but the סוכה wood cannot
17. ChallengeComparing the סוכה to seven אתרוגים set aside for seven days
18. Resolutionאתרוג is a separate מצוה each day; סוכה is one long day