Beitzah 9a

ביצה ט׳ ע״א

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Topic

Separating חלה on יום טוב, and whether מראית העין bans apply in private (the dovecote ladder משנה)

Overview

The amud opens with a ruling that if dough was kneaded on ערב יום טוב, its חלה may still be separated on יום טוב. אבוה דשמואל disagrees and forbids it. The גמרא suggests that שמואל argues with his father, since שמואל lets one eat bread from חוץ לארץ first and separate the חלה afterward. רבא answers that even שמואל agrees that once dough is named חלה it is forbidden to non-כהנים, so he may agree with his father after all. Then a new משנה begins: בית שמאי forbid carrying a ladder from one dovecote to another on יום טוב, and בית הלל permit it. רב חנן בר אמי first says the dispute is only in public, about מראית העין, and that everyone permits it in private. The גמרא challenges this with רב's rule that מראית העין bans apply even in the most private room, and answers that תנאים argue about that rule. A second version puts the dispute in private, which seems to make רב follow בית שמאי. The same ברייתא about drying wet clothes shows that רב follows other תנאים instead.

Opening lines

The steps (11)

1. StatementDough kneaded before the holiday may have its חלה separated on the holiday
2. Statementשמואל's father forbids separating חלה on the holiday in this case
3. ChallengeDoes שמואל disagree with his father?
4. Rejectionרבא shows שמואל may agree with his father after all
5. StatementNew משנה: moving a dovecote ladder on the holiday
6. StatementThe ladder dispute is only in the public domain
7. ChallengeChallenge from רב's rule that appearance-based bans apply even in private
8. ResolutionAnswer: this is a dispute between תנאים
9. StatementSecond version: the dispute is in the private domain
10. ChallengeDoes רב follow בית שמאי?
11. Resolutionרב Follows תנאים Who Forbid Even in Private