Berachos 25a
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Berakhot 25a
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Topic
Saying קריאת שמע and holy words near filth, bad smells, and urine: distances, doubts, and how dry is dry enough
Overview
The amud opens by finishing a rule: for תפלה a person must cover his heart. רב הונא then rules that someone who walked into a בית הכסא wearing תפילין covers them with his hand until the first mass is out, since holding back is dangerous. Next, רב הונא and רב חסדא argue about saying קריאת שמע when part of the body is not clean, and then about how far to move from a bad smell. A ברייתא supports רב חסדא, but רבא rules like a different, shorter list of forbidden filth. רב ששת teaches that a smell with no visible source does not stop תורה learning, but it does stop קריאת שמע. אביי and רבא argue about filth that is passing by, and רב פפא says a pig's mouth counts as passing filth. רב יהודה rules on cases of doubt: a doubt about feces is strict, while a doubt about urine is lenient, because urine on the ground is only forbidden by the רבנן. The גמרא then asks how dry feces and urine must be before they stop forbidding holy words. רבא rules that feces as dry as earthenware is still forbidden, and urine forbids only while it is wet. The amud ends by testing that ruling against two ברייתות.
Opening lines
אֲבָל לִתְפִלָּה
But for prayer
עַד שֶׁיְּכַסֶּה אֶת לִבּוֹ.
[he may not pray] until he covers his heart.
וְאָמַר רַב הוּנָא:
And Rav Huna said:
שָׁכַח וְנִכְנַס בִּתְפִילִּין לְבֵית הַכִּסֵּא —
If one forgot and entered the bathroom wearing tefillin —
The steps (46)
- StatementFor prayer, the heart must be covered
- StatementEntering a bathroom while wearing תפילין by mistake
- ChallengeCan he really stay until he is completely done?
- ResolutionOnly until the first mass
- ChallengeWhy not stop right away?
- ResolutionHolding it in is dangerous
- StatementA dispute: saying שמע when part of the body is not clean
- Proofרב הונא's source: every soul praises
- Proofרב חסדא's source: all my bones praise
- StatementHow far to move from a bad smell that has a source
- ProofA ברייתא that supports רב חסדא
- Statementרבא rules like a different, more lenient ברייתא
- QuestionWhat about a bad smell with no source
- Responseרב ששת points to the mats in the בית מדרש
- ConclusionThe answer only covers תורה learning and someone else's smell
- Statementאביי and רבא argue about filth that is passing by
- Proofאביי brings a proof from a מצורע under a tree
- Rejectionרבא explains why the מצורע case is different
- Statementרב פפא: a pig's mouth is like passing filth
- ChallengeIsn't that obvious?
- ResolutionEven right after the pig comes out of the river
- StatementDoubtful feces is forbidden, doubtful urine is permitted
- StatementSecond version of רב יהודה's ruling: house versus garbage heap
- ProofSource for the urine leniency: רב המנונא
- Challengeרבי יונתן points out two פסוקים that seem to contradict
- ResolutionOne פסוק is about feces, the other about urine
- ConclusionUrine on the ground is only rabbinic, so a doubt is permitted
- QuestionHow long does certain urine stay forbidden?
- ResponseThree אמוראים: as long as it is still wet
- Statementגניבא quotes רב: as long as its mark can be seen
- Challengeרב יוסף: רב could not have said this
- Rejectionאביי: רב also has a strict statement about feces
- QuestionWhat counts as feces 'like earthenware'?
- ResponseThe test: it does not crumble when thrown or rolled
- Statementרבינא's story: checking whether feces had dried
- QuestionWhat is the final ruling?
- ResponseDispute about feces dry like earthenware
- Conclusionרבא's ruling on dry feces and on urine
- ChallengeA ברייתא suggests a visible urine mark still forbids
- RejectionThe opening clause of the ברייתא points the other way
- ConclusionNo proof can be drawn from this ברייתא
- StatementSuggesting the question is a dispute between תנאים
- QuestionWhat do 'soaked in' and 'did not soak in' mean?
- RejectionIf 'soaked in' means 'no longer wet,' there is no dispute
- Response'Soaked in' means no mark is left, so they disagree about a visible mark
- RejectionMaybe everyone agrees a visible mark is permitted