Berachos 33b

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Berakhot 33b

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Topic

Saying הבדלה over a cup and on יום טוב after שבת, and wording in prayer that gets a חזן silenced

Overview

This amud finishes the laws of הבדלה and then begins the last משנה of the chapter. רבא rules that even if you said הבדלה in the עמידה, you say it again over a cup of wine, just like קידוש. Next, the גמרא discusses רבי אליעזר's view that הבדלה goes in the ברכה of הודאה. רבי יוחנן's ruling for a יום טוב that falls on מוצאי שבת was reported with different wordings: הלכה, מטין, מודים, and נראין. רב יוסף settles practice with the 'pearl' prayer of רב and שמואל, ותודיענו, which puts הבדלה inside the יום טוב blessing. A new משנה then lists phrases that get a חזן silenced, such as the bird's nest plea and saying מודים twice, and the גמרא explains why. Stories about רבה and רבי חנינא teach that we may not add our own praises of God. A side teaching shows that everything is in Heaven's hands except יראת שמים. The amud ends with רבי זירא's rule about repeating שמע, and רב פפא asks אביי a question whose answer comes on the next amud.

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The steps (36)

1. Questionרבינא asks רבא for the final ruling
2. Responseרבא compares הבדלה to קידוש
3. StatementQuoting the משנה: רבי אליעזר says in הודאה
4. QuestionOn the road: did רבי יוחנן rule like רבי אליעזר?
5. Responseרבי חייא בר אבין confirms: Yes
6. QuestionSaying 'the הלכה follows him' implies a dispute: who disagrees?
7. ChallengeThe Rabbis seem to disagree
8. RejectionTheir disagreement may apply only on other days
9. Challengeרבי עקיבא still disagrees
10. ResolutionThe established number of blessings rules out רבי עקיבא’s practice
11. ResolutionThe ruling was stated more cautiously
12. ProofTwo versions of the wording are reported
13. StatementTwo more ways to describe the ruling
14. ConclusionRely on the carefully transmitted version
15. Proofרחבא keeps his teacher's exact word for the Temple porticoes
16. Conclusionרב יוסף relies on the 'pearl' of רב and שמואל
17. StatementThe wording of the 'pearl' formula
18. Statementמשנה: prayer phrases that get the leader silenced
19. StatementTwo of the three silenced phrases are easy to explain
20. QuestionWhy is the bird's nest phrase forbidden?
21. ResponseTwo אמוראים give two reasons
22. StatementA חזן uses the bird's nest phrase and רבה praises him
23. Challengeאביי objects that the משנה says to silence him
24. Resolutionרבה was only testing אביי
25. StatementA prayer leader adds many extra praises of God
26. Statementרבי חנינא rebukes the prayer leader
27. ProofThe parable of the king praised for his silver
28. StatementEverything is in Heaven's hands except fear of Heaven
29. ChallengeIs fear of Heaven really a small thing?
30. ResolutionFor משה, יראת שמים really was a small thing
31. ProofParable of the large and small vessel
32. StatementThe משנה: repeating מודים gets you silenced
33. Statementרבי זירא: repeating שמע is like repeating מודים
34. ChallengeA ברייתא says repeating שמע is only disgraceful
35. ResolutionRepeating word by word versus repeating verse by verse
36. ChallengeMaybe he repeated only because he lacked focus the first time