Chullin 105a
חולין ק״ה ע״א
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Topic
Separating meat and cheese (cleaning the mouth and waiting time), checking one's property, and the rules of washing hands before and after a meal.
Overview
The amud opens by explaining what בית שמאי and בית הלל mean by wiping the mouth (מקנח) and rinsing it (מדיח) between meat and cheese. After two explanations are rejected, the גמרא concludes that both sides require both, so there is no real argument. It then examines רבי זירא's rule that wiping is done with bread and adds several limits: wheat, cold, and soft. The final הלכה, though, is that almost any food works for wiping, except flour, dates, and vegetables. Next, רבי יוחנן rules that no waiting is needed after cheese before meat. רב חסדא rules that after meat, cheese is forbidden, and that meat stuck between the teeth still counts as meat. מר עוקבא describes waiting from one meal to the next, and his father's full day. The shared phrase 'vinegar, son of wine' then leads to שמואל's advice to check one's property daily, which the stories of אביי and רב אסי confirm. Finally, the גמרא turns to washing hands at a meal: מים ראשונים are a מצוה and מים אחרונים a חובה. It then covers where the water may land and whether it may be hot or cold, and רבי ינאי begins a limit that continues on the next amud.
Opening lines
אִילֵּימָא בֵּית שַׁמַּאי אוֹמְרִים:
If we say that Beit Shammai say:
מְקַנֵּחַ וְלָא בָּעֵי מֵדִיחַ,
one wipes and does not need to rinse,
וּבֵית הִלֵּל אוֹמְרִים:
and Beit Hillel say:
מֵדִיחַ וְלָא בָּעֵי מְקַנֵּחַ.
one rinses and does not need to wipe.
The steps (30)
- ResponseFirst suggestion: each side needs only its own method
- ChallengeChallenge: then רבי זירא would follow בית שמאי
- ResolutionSecond suggestion: בית הלל require rinsing too
- ChallengeChallenge: it would belong on the list in עדיות
- ResolutionFinal answer: both require both, and there is no argument
- StatementBack to רבי זירא's rule: wiping only with bread
- StatementOnly wheat bread, not barley bread
- StatementWheat bread works only when it is cold
- StatementThe bread must also be soft, not hard
- ConclusionFinal rule: everything works for wiping except flour, dates, and vegetables
- QuestionHow long must one wait between meat and cheese?
- Responseרבי יוחנן answers: no wait at all
- ChallengeBut רב חסדא says after meat you may not eat cheese
- ResolutionThe question was really about cheese followed by meat
- StatementLooking at רב חסדא's rule on its own
- QuestionWhat about meat stuck between the teeth?
- ResponseA פסוק shows meat between the teeth is still meat
- Statementמר עוקבא compares his waiting time to his father's
- Statementשמואל compares how often he checks his property to his father
- Statementשמואל's teaching that checking property daily pays off
- Proofאביי catches his sharecropper carrying wood
- Proofרב אסי stops a flood and finds שמואל's coins
- StatementFirst waters are a מצוה, final waters are an obligation
- ChallengeA ברייתא calls both first and final waters an obligation
- ResolutionCompared to something optional, a מצוה is called an obligation
- StatementThe full ברייתא: where the water may be poured
- QuestionWhat is the difference between the two versions?
- ResponseThe difference is wood chips
- StatementHot or cold water for first and final washing
- Statementרבי ינאי limits when hot water is allowed for first washing