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Chullin 77a

חולין ע״ז ע״א

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Topic

Covering of a broken bone that makes an animal kosher, and the laws of a שליא (placenta)

Overview

The amud opens by finishing רבה's lenient ruling about a broken bone covered by sinews that will later harden. רב פפא objects that ריש לקיש disagrees and a Torah איסור is at stake, and רבה falls silent. The גמרא explains why: here רבי יוחנן himself retracted in favor of ריש לקיש. Next comes a real case of a broken, exposed bone with a chip missing. אביי held off ruling, but רבא ruled that it makes no difference as long as most of the bone is covered. The sages then ask what kinds of damaged flesh still count as covering the bone, and they resolve the case of flesh cut like a ring. A new משנה teaches the laws of a שליא found in a slaughtered animal, one that partly came out, and one that was dropped. The גמרא finds a פסוק for the rule and calls part of it an אסמכתא. It then begins a question about a cooked donkey hide, which continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

נִמְנִין עֲלֵיהֶן בַּפֶּסַח,

one may be registered on their account for the Pesach offering,

וְעוֹד, הַתּוֹרָה חָסָה

and furthermore, the Torah spared

עַל מָמוֹנָן שֶׁל יִשְׂרָאֵל.

the money of the Jewish people.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב פָּפָּא לְרַבָּה:

Rav Pappa said to Rabba:

The steps (24)

  1. Statementרבה's reasons for being lenient
  2. Challengeרב פפא objects: ריש לקיש disagrees, and this is a Torah prohibition
  3. ChallengeWhy was רבה silent? The הלכה usually follows רבי יוחנן
  4. ResolutionHere רבי יוחנן himself retracted
  5. StatementA real case: a broken bone with a small piece missing
  6. Statementרב אדא בר מתנא sends the owner to רבא
  7. Responseרבא: it makes no difference whether the piece fell off
  8. Questionרבינא asks about flesh that is torn up, crushed, or rotting
  9. ResponseWhat counts as 'rotting' flesh
  10. QuestionMore open questions about damaged flesh over the bone
  11. ProofTrying to prove from 'skin is like flesh'
  12. RejectionMaybe the skin there holds tight on its own
  13. QuestionFlesh cut in a ring shape
  14. ResponseThe doctors say a ring-shaped cut heals
  15. StatementOnly when the bone holds its flesh firmly
  16. StatementA placenta found in a slaughtered animal
  17. StatementA placenta that partly came out is forbidden
  18. StatementA dropped placenta from a firstborn or from sacrificial animals
  19. QuestionWhere do we learn the placenta rule?
  20. ResponseThe verse includes the placenta, but not if part came out
  21. ChallengeWhy do we need a verse at all?
  22. ResolutionThe verse is only a support
  23. Questionרבי יצחק בר נפחא's question about cooked donkey hide
  24. QuestionWhich kind of impurity is the question about?