Chullin 86b

חולין פ״ו ע״ב

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Topic

Why רבי מאיר needs a רוב, which of רבי's rulings is final, and the rules of covering the blood of many animals (כיסוי הדם)

Overview

The amud begins by finishing a challenge to רבי אמי. If רבי מאיר joins a מיעוט to a חזקה in the dough case, why does slaughter by a חרש, שוטה וקטן need a רוב? The answer is that being lenient about a ספק טומאה does not allow being lenient about a ספק איסור. Next, the גמרא asks which of רבי's two rulings, one like רבי מאיר and one like the חכמים, came later. A story about רבי אמי, רבי זירא and רבי אבא shows the question was asked in the בית מדרש but not answered. רבי אלעזר's message to בבל, which mentions only the ruling like רבי מאיר, proves that ruling was the later one. A new משנה teaches that one covering of blood is enough for many חיות and birds slaughtered in one place, while רבי יהודה says to cover the חיה's blood before slaughtering the bird. The גמרא explains how each side reads the words "או" and "דמו" in the פסוק. Finally, רבי חנינא says רבי יהודה agrees that only one ברכה is said, and the גמרא challenges this from a story about רב's students and the cup of wine.

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The steps (24)

1. ChallengeJoin the minority to the presumption and the majority is weakened
2. ResolutionImpurity doubts are not like prohibition doubts
3. Statementרבי ruled both ways
4. QuestionWhich ruling came last?
5. ProofA story outside the בית מדרש begins
6. ProofInside the study hall, the same question comes up
7. QuestionSo what was decided?
8. Proofרבי אלעזר's message to בבל
9. ChallengeBut רבי also ruled like the חכמים
10. ConclusionThe ruling like רבי מאיר was the later one
11. StatementThe משנה: one covering is enough for many
12. Statementרבי יהודה: cover the חיה first, then slaughter the bird
13. ProofThe פסוק's words include many or few
14. ConclusionFrom here comes the משנה's rule
15. Statementרבי יהודה: cover the animal's blood first, then slaughter the bird
16. ChallengeThe רבנן answer with another פסוק
17. QuestionWhat is the Rabbis' point?
18. ResponseThe word "or" is needed for a different lesson
19. Resolutionרבי יהודה learns the separation from "its blood"
20. RejectionThe רבנן: "its blood" can mean a lot of blood
21. Statementרבי יהודה agrees only one blessing is said
22. ChallengeHow is this different from רב's students?
23. ProofThe story of רב's students and the cup of wine
24. ChallengeCovering the blood should require a new blessing