Eruvin 104a
עירובין ק״ד ע״א
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Topic
The size of a חציצה, salt and water-drawing in the מקדש on שבת, and whether making sound is forbidden on שבת
Overview
The amud opens by finishing the discussion of a כהן who wraps a hurt finger. A piece of cloth 3 by 3 fingerbreadths counts as a חציצה, but a small צלצול counts even when smaller because it is significant. According to רבי יוחנן, the משנה mentioned גמי in order to teach in passing that גמי heals. A new משנה then permits scattering salt on the ramp of the מזבח on שבת, and drawing water with a wheel from cisterns in the מקדש. The גמרא shows that salt differs from straw spread in a muddy courtyard, and works out how salt on the ramp avoids two problems: adding to the building and creating a חציצה. רבא publicly retracts a ruling about straw and teaches that it may be spread only with the bottom of a broken basket. The water wheel leads to a debate about making sound on שבת. עולא forbids even knocking, while רבה forbids only musical sound. Every source brought against רבה is explained another way, and the wheel is banned only in case a person waters his garden. אמימר therefore permitted the wheel in מחוזא, but the story begins to turn as the amud ends.
Opening lines
שָׁלֹשׁ עַל שָׁלֹשׁ — חוֹצְצוֹת,
Three by three [fingerbreadths] — they interpose;
פָּחוֹת מִשָּׁלֹשׁ — אֵין חוֹצְצוֹת,
less than three — they do not interpose.
וְהַיְינוּ דְּרָבָא אָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא.
And this is what Rava said in the name of Rav Ḥisda.
לֵימָא פְּלִיגָא
Shall we say that it disagrees
The steps (32)
- StatementThe size rule: three by three fingerbreadths blocks, smaller does not
- ChallengeDoes this size rule argue with רב יהודה בריה דרבי חייא?
- ResolutionA small sash is different because it is significant
- ChallengeAccording to רבי יוחנן, why didn't the משנה mention a small sash?
- ResolutionThe משנה teaches an extra lesson along the way: a reed heals
- StatementNew משנה: salt on the ramp and drawing water in the Temple
- ChallengeContradiction: salt only in the Temple, yet straw allowed anywhere
- ResolutionStraw is different because it is not left there
- ChallengeWhat kind of salt? If it becomes part of the ramp, it adds to the building
- ChallengeThe other side of the dilemma: salt that blocks the feet
- ResolutionThe salt is used while carrying limbs, which is not a service
- ChallengeCarrying the limbs is a service, based on a verse
- ResolutionChange the example: carrying wood to the altar fire
- StatementSpreading straw in a rain-damaged courtyard
- ChallengeA ברייתא says the straw must be spread in an unusual way
- Conclusionרבא publicly admits his mistake about the straw
- StatementQuoting the משנה about drawing water from the Cistern of the Exiles
- Statementעולא curses a man who knocks on the door on שבת
- Rejectionרבה says only musical sounds are forbidden
- Challengeאביי brings a ברייתא about siphoning and dripping water for a sick person
- ChallengeProving from the ברייתא that any made sound is forbidden
- ResolutionThe dripping water is meant to put the sick person to sleep
- Challengeאביי challenges again from guarding crops
- ChallengeSpelling out why clapping would be forbidden
- ResolutionThe ban is a safeguard against picking up a pebble
- ChallengeNew challenge: women playing with nuts
- ResolutionNuts are banned because players might level holes, not because of noise
- ProofProof from apples, which make no sound
- ChallengeChallenge from the משנה about the water wheel
- ResolutionThe wheel is banned so a person will not water his garden
- Statementאמימר permits the water wheel in מחוזא
- Statementאמימר sees something that changes the picture