Gittin 22a

גיטין כ״ב ע״א

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Topic

The perforated pot (גט on a leaf, קנין, border of ארץ ישראל) and the three stages of hide for writing a גט

Overview

This amud opens by finishing the argument about a גט written on a leaf growing in a perforated pot (עציץ נקוב). אביי says it is valid because the whole pot can be handed over. רבא says it is invalid, by גזירה, in case the husband cuts the leaf off. The גמרא then teaches the rules of קנין for such a pot. The plants count like land and the pot is movable, so חזקה on the plants also acquires the pot, but חזקה on the pot alone acquires nothing. Next, אביי and רבא argue whether a pot on the border of ארץ ישראל follows its hole or its branches. The גמרא limits their argument to a plant that has not rooted, and defends this against challenges from the terraced gardens and from a tree growing across the border. Finally, the גמרא returns to the משנה. עולא defines three stages of hide (מצה, חיפה, דיפתרא), each with its own size for carrying on שבת. The amud ends by asking who the חכמים are who validate such a גט, and רבי אלעזר's answer continues on the next amud.

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The steps (40)

1. StatementWhy the leaf-in-pot גט can be valid
2. Statementרבא: invalid, because he might cut the leaf off
3. StatementPot belongs to one person, plants to another
4. StatementOne owner sells both: חזקה on the plants gets the pot too
5. ProofThis matches the משנה about movables acquired along with land
6. Statementחזקה on the pot alone acquires nothing
7. QuestionA pot with its hole in ארץ ישראל and its branches outside
8. Responseאביי follows the hole; רבא follows the branches
9. StatementThe argument is only when the roots stay inside the pot
10. ChallengeChallenge from the two terraced gardens
11. ResolutionThe gardens case has its own special reason
12. Resolutionרבי יהודה's reason in the two-gardens case
13. ChallengeChallenge from a tree partly inside ארץ ישראל
14. ChallengeSuggesting that the tree's branches are split
15. RejectionNo, the roots are split
16. QuestionHow can רבן שמעון בן גמליאל split the fruit?
17. ResponseA rock separates the roots
18. QuestionWhat is רבי's reasoning?
19. ResponseThe roots mix again further up
20. QuestionWhat exactly do they disagree about?
21. ResponseDoes the air mix the tree, or does each side stand alone?
22. Statementעולא: there are three kinds of hide
23. StatementDefining מצה: completely raw hide
24. QuestionWhich הלכה needs this term?
25. ResponseIt matters for carrying on שבת
26. QuestionHow big must it be?
27. ResponseEnough to wrap a small weight
28. QuestionHow small is a small weight?
29. Responseאביי: a quarter of a quarter by the פומבדיתא standard
30. StatementDefining חיפה: salted hide only
31. QuestionWhere does חיפה matter in הלכה?
32. ResponseIt matters for carrying on שבת
33. QuestionWhat is the size measure for חיפה?
34. ResponseEnough to make an amulet
35. StatementDefining דיפתרא: salted and floured hide
36. QuestionWhere does דיפתרא matter in הלכה?
37. ResponseAlso for carrying on שבת
38. QuestionWhat is the size measure for דיפתרא?
39. ResponseEnough to write a גט on
40. QuestionWho are the חכמים who say it is valid?