Gittin 64b

גיטין ס״ד ע״ב

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Topic

Believing a woman's divorce claim, who receives a betrothed נערה's גט, a minor's ability to guard a גט, and whether a minor can acquire on behalf of others.

Overview

The amud opens by finishing a discussion about a woman who claims she was divorced. The rule that an agent does his job is used only to be strict. רב המנונא's rule that a woman would not lie to her husband's face works only when nothing backs up her claim. Then a new משנה teaches that a betrothed נערה and her father can each receive her גט, while רבי יהודה says only the father can. The גמרא explains the argument: the רבנן say the תורה gave her an extra hand, and רבי יהודה says her hand counts for nothing while her father is alive. The משנה also says a girl who cannot guard her גט cannot be divorced, and the גמרא concludes this means she can tell her גט apart from other things. Next comes רבי אסי's two-stage rule about when a child can acquire for himself and for others. שמואל, as רב חסדא explains him, says no minor can acquire for others. רב חיננא ורדאן challenges this from the case of a Hebrew maidservant in שיתוף מבוי, and the challenge is answered because that setup is only rabbinic. The גמרא then begins to show how ורדאן could have replied, and the reply continues on the next amud.

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The steps (22)

1. ResolutionThe agent rule is only used to be strict
2. ChallengeWhy not believe the wife herself, based on רב המנונא?
3. ResolutionWhen something supports her, she might lie
4. Statementמשנה: who receives a betrothed girl's גט
5. StatementA girl who can't guard her גט can't be divorced
6. QuestionWhat is the argument really about?
7. ResponseAn extra hand versus no hand at all
8. StatementA ברייתא defines a girl who can guard her גט
9. QuestionWhat does 'her גט and something else' mean?
10. Responseרבי יוחנן: she guards something else in place of her גט
11. ChallengeSuch a girl is just a fool
12. ResponseShe can tell her גט apart from other things
13. StatementTwo stages of a child's ability to acquire
14. Statementשמואל says both stages are the same
15. QuestionWhat does 'this and that are one' mean?
16. Responseרב חסדא: both stages acquire only for themselves
17. ChallengeChallenge from the alleyway-merging משנה
18. ChallengeThe maidservant must be a minor
19. ResolutionMerging alleyways is different because it is only rabbinic
20. Statementרב חסדא reports that ורדאן was silent
21. QuestionWhat could ורדאן have answered?
22. ResponseThe reply begins: whatever the Sages instituted