Kesubos 22a
כתובות כ״ב ע״א
Ketubot 22a
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Topic
Judges vouching for a colleague, ratifying a שטר with a full court, and when a woman is believed about her status (הפה שאסר and אמתלא)
Overview
The amud opens by finishing a discussion about judges who vouch for a challenged colleague. The גמרא concludes that the challenge was about theft, and the judges are saying he did תשובה. Next, רבי זירא teaches that if one of three judges ratifying a שטר dies, the other two must write that three sat together. The גמרא then debates whether writing 'before us, the court' is enough, given that שמואל allows a בית דין חצוף of two. A new משנה follows: a woman who says she was married and is now divorced, or was captured but stayed pure, is believed, because הפה שאסר הוא הפה שהתיר. Witnesses who know the problematic fact take that belief away. The גמרא looks for a Torah source and ends up assigning the words of the פסוק to other teachings. It then teaches that a woman who said 'I am married' and then 'I am single' is believed only if she gives an אמתלא, a believable reason, and it supports this with the story of a beautiful woman and a ruling of the חכמים in אושא. Finally, שמואל asks רב about a woman who said 'I am טמאה' and then 'I am טהורה,' and רב's answer continues on the next amud.
Opening lines
תְּרֵי וּתְרֵי נִינְהוּ.
they are two against two.
אִי עַרְעָר דִּפְגַם מִשְׁפָּחָה,
If it is a challenge of a flaw in family lineage,
גִּלּוּי מִלְּתָא בְּעָלְמָא הוּא.
it is merely a revealing of the matter.
לְעוֹלָם אֵימָא לָךְ
Actually, I will tell you
The steps (23)
- ChallengeNeither kind of challenge seems to fit
- ResolutionA theft challenge, and the judges say he repented
- StatementOne of three ratifying judges died
- StatementWriting 'before us, the court' is enough
- ChallengeMaybe it was a court of only two
- ResolutionThe text names רב אשי's court
- ChallengeMaybe רב אשי's court follows שמואל
- Resolutionרב אשי himself instructed them
- Statementמשנה: A woman who says she was married but is now divorced
- Statementמשנה: A woman who says she was captured but remained pure
- Proofרב אסי brings a Torah verse as the source for the rule
- ChallengeWhy do we need a verse for something so logical?
- ResolutionThe verse teaches that a father is believed to forbid his daughter
- ChallengeThen why does the verse add the word 'this'?
- Resolution'This' teaches רבי יונה's rule: not a יבם
- StatementA woman who said 'married' then 'single' is believed
- ChallengeDidn't she already make herself forbidden?
- ResolutionShe gave a good reason for her first words
- ProofAnother ברייתא says the same thing
- ProofThe story of the beautiful woman
- ConclusionThe חכמים in אושא rule: with a reason, she is believed
- Questionשמואל asks about 'impure' then 'pure'
- Responseרב answers: here too, if she gives a reason