Kesubos 47a

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Ketubot 47a

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Topic

The father's rights over his daughter (earnings, נדרים, גט, produce) and the husband's rights to her dowry

Overview

The amud opens by finishing an earlier point: a father gets the things his daughter finds so there will be no bad feeling (איבה). It then asks where we learn that her earnings (מעשה ידיה) belong to her father. רב הונא in the name of רב learns it from the פסוק about selling a daughter as an אמה. The גמרא asks whether this covers only a קטנה, whom he can sell, and not a נערה. A logical proof from the father's right to marry her off is knocked down by רב אחאי. In the end the גמרא shows that a קטנה needs no פסוק, so the פסוק must be teaching about a נערה. Next, the גמרא gives the sources for the father cancelling her נדרים and receiving her גט. Then it explains a dispute about whether a father eats the produce of her property, which turns on whether he needs that reward to ransom her. Last, it brings a dispute about a promised dowry when a bride dies during אירוסין, and starts comparing it to the argument of רבי אלעזר בן עזריה and the Rabbis; that comparison continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

The steps (18)

1. ResponseThe father gets her found items to prevent bad feeling
2. QuestionWhere do we learn that her earnings go to the father?
3. ResponseLearned from the daughter sold as a maidservant
4. ChallengeMaybe this only applies to a young girl the father can sell
5. ResolutionA logical argument from the father handing her over to marriage
6. Rejectionרב אחאי offers three ways around the argument
7. ResolutionThe verse is really teaching about a young woman
8. QuestionWhere do we learn that a father cancels her vows?
9. ResponseThe verse about vows made in her father's house
10. QuestionWhere do we learn that a father accepts her bill of divorce?
11. ResponseLeaving a marriage is compared to entering one
12. StatementA dispute over whether a father eats the produce of her property
13. QuestionWhat is the reason behind their disagreement?
14. ResponseThe first opinion: a husband gets produce so that he will ransom her
15. ResponseA father will ransom his daughter anyway
16. ResponseEven a father might tell her to ransom herself
17. StatementDoes the husband get the dowry if the bride dies during אירוסין
18. QuestionIs this the same argument as the one about collecting a כתובה after אירוסין