Kiddushin 69a

קידושין ס״ט ע״א

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Topic

רבי טרפון's way for a ממזר to have non-ממזר children through a שפחה, and the opening of פרק עשרה יוחסין on the lineage groups that came up from בבל

Overview

The amud opens with a ברייתא about a master who frees his pregnant שפחה but says her child stays a slave. רבי יוסי הגלילי says the child goes free with her. The חכמים say the master's words stand, and רבא explains that the פסוק they quoted is really the source for רבי יוסי הגלילי. Next comes a משנה: רבי טרפון says a ממזר can have a child with a שפחה, and once that child is freed he is not a ממזר. רבי אליעזר says the child is a ממזר slave. The גמרא proves from the story of רבי שמלאי and his ממזר host that רבי טרפון allows this לכתחילה, and שמואל rules that the הלכה follows רבי טרפון. The גמרא then debates the word 'לו', which רבי אליעזר uses as his source, and the רבנן answer that a שפחה's child is like an animal's young and takes no lineage from the father. The פרק 'האומר' ends, and the new פרק 'עשרה יוחסין' lists ten lineage groups that came up from בבל and who may marry whom. The גמרא explains that 'went up' teaches that ארץ ישראל is higher than all other lands, and it begins checking the sources for this on the next amud.

Opening lines

The steps (26)

1. StatementFreeing a maidservant but not her child
2. ChallengeHow does the verse prove the Sages' view?
3. Resolutionרבא: the verse belongs to רבי יוסי הגלילי
4. Statementרבי טרפון: a ממזר's line can become pure
5. Statementרבי אליעזר: the child is a ממזר slave
6. QuestionDoes רבי טרפון allow this from the start?
7. ProofProof: you purified the males but not the females
8. ProofFinishing the proof: if it were allowed from the start, a ממזרת could marry a slave too
9. RejectionA slave has no family line, so the trick cannot help a ממזרת
10. ProofProof from רבי שמלאי and his ממזר host
11. RejectionMaybe the advice was: become a Hebrew slave
12. ChallengeThere was no Hebrew slave in רבי שמלאי's time
13. ConclusionConclusion: רבי טרפון meant from the start
14. StatementThe הלכה follows רבי טרפון
15. ProofThe source for רבי אליעזר: the word 'his' in the פסוק
16. ResponseHow the Rabbis use the word 'לו'
17. Challengeרבי אליעזר: 'לו' overrides the שפחה verse too
18. ResolutionA שפחה's child is like an animal's young
19. ConclusionHadran — Closing the chapter 'האומר'
20. StatementTen lineage groups came up from Babylonia
21. StatementThe first two circles of who may marry whom
22. StatementThe third circle of who may marry whom
23. StatementDefining שתוקי and אסופי
24. QuestionWhy does the משנה say 'went up from בבל'?
25. ResponseThe wording teaches that ארץ ישראל is higher than other lands
26. QuestionGranted the מקדש is higher, since a פסוק says so