Moed Katan 10a

מועד קטן י׳ ע״א

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Topic

Defining the משנה's terms for sewing, bed cords and millstone work on חול המועד, and whether one may cut grooves in millstones on the מועד.

Overview

The גמרא explains three rulings from the משנה about work on חול המועד. First it defines a הדיוט, who may sew normally, and מכליב, the changed stitching a professional is allowed to do. Next it asks what מסרגין and ממתחין mean for bed cords. רב דימי's report of the dispute runs into two challenges, one from a ברייתא of רב תחליפא בר שאול and one from a משנה in כלים. So the גמרא brings רבין's version instead: everyone agrees מסרגין means both directions, and the only dispute is about ממתחין. Then a new משנה allows setting up an oven, a stove and a mill. רבי יהודה limits מכבשין on millstones. רב יהודה and רב יחיאל define מכבשין in two different ways, and both definitions survive a challenge from a ברייתא. Finally, רב הונא harshly condemns cutting grooves on חול המועד, following the 'יש אומרים'. רב חמא permits it, and his teaching from רבי מאיר about trimming a riding animal's hooves continues on the next amud.

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The steps (27)

1. QuestionWho counts as a layman?
2. ResponseCan't pull a full needle at once
3. ResponseCan't sew a straight hem
4. QuestionWhat is מכליב stitching?
5. ResponseSkipping stitches
6. ResponseDog's-teeth stitches
7. QuestionWhat are interweaving and tightening?
8. ResponseFirst view: lengthwise and widthwise
9. ResponseSecond view: tightening loose cords
10. ChallengeChallenge: no braiding new cords
11. ChallengeThe ברייתא fits the first view
12. ChallengeThe second view makes the ברייתא say something obvious
13. ChallengeA משנה shows that סירוג always means both directions
14. Resolutionרבין's version: the dispute is only about ממתחין
15. ChallengeA ברייתא is brought to challenge רבין's version
16. ChallengeHow could the strictest view forbid even tightening a loose cord?
17. ResolutionYes, because the bed can be filled with clothing
18. Statementמשנה: setting up an oven, stove and mill on חול המועד
19. QuestionWhat does מכבשין mean?
20. ResponseTwo explanations: cutting grooves or cutting the eyehole
21. ChallengeA ברייתא about ovens, stoves and millstones on the מועד
22. ChallengeWhy would an old millstone need an eyehole?
23. ResolutionHe wants to widen the hole a little
24. Statementרב הונא curses a man cutting grooves on חול המועד
25. Conclusionרב הונא holds like the 'יש אומרים'
26. Statementרב חמא: one may cut grooves in millstones on the מועד
27. Statementרבי מאיר: one may even trim a riding animal's hooves