Moed Katan 20b

מועד קטן כ׳ ע״ב

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Topic

Rules of mourning: late news of a death, קריעה, which relatives one mourns for, mourning together with a spouse, and tearing while standing.

Overview

The גמרא finishes the story of רב hinting to his uncle רבי חייא that רבי חייא's brother and sister have died. רבי חייא removes his shoes and soon goes to bathe, and the גמרא learns three הלכות from this: an אבל may not wear shoes, late news (שמועה רחוקה) needs only one day of mourning, and part of a day counts as the whole day. News that becomes late during a רגל or שבת also needs only one day. רבי מני and רבי חנינא then argue about whether one does קריעה for late news, and the גמרא explains why tearing for a parent after שבעה does not disprove רבי מני. A ברייתא lists the relatives one mourns for, along with a מחלוקת about mourning for a relative's relatives. The גמרא learns that a husband joins his wife's mourning only for her parents, from the story of מר עוקבא and from ברייתות. Finally, אמימר tears his garment in front of his grieving son and redoes the tear standing, which is learned from the פסוק about איוב.

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The steps (24)

1. Statementרב hints at the deaths, and רבי חייא begins mourning
2. ProofThree rules learned from Rabbi Chiya's actions
3. Resolutionרבי חייא and רבי אחייה are two different people
4. StatementNews that becomes late during a Festival
5. ProofThe same rule for news heard on שבת
6. QuestionMust one tear his garment for late news?
7. Challengeרבי מני challenges רבי חנינא
8. ChallengeA ברייתא about getting a garment late
9. Challengeרבי זירא adds: for parents, one keeps tearing
10. ResolutionTearing for parents is special honor
11. StatementThe basic list of relatives one mourns for
12. StatementMourning for second-degree relatives: three opinions
13. ChallengeIsn't the view of the חכמים the same as רבי עקיבא's?
14. ResolutionThe difference: being in the same house
15. Proofרב and רב הונא: mourn only in her presence
16. Statementמר עוקבא starts mourning for his brother-in-law
17. Statementרב הונא: for your wife's sake, only her parents
18. ProofA ברייתא: husband and wife mourn together for each other's parents
19. ChallengeA second ברייתא seems to contradict the first
20. ResolutionTwo different cases: in-laws versus other relatives
21. ProofAnother ברייתא confirms: only for her parents
22. Statementאמימר tears his clothes again in front of his son, then again standing
23. Questionרב אשי asks for the source of tearing while standing
24. Responseאמימר answers from the פסוק about איוב