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Moed Katan 28a

מועד קטן כ״ח ע״א

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Topic

Burial of women, the death of צדיקים, signs in the timing of death, מזל, and stories of how חכמים died

Overview

The amud opens by finishing a debate about setting a woman's bier down in the street. The first view says the rule is only for a woman who died in childbirth, and רבי אלעזר says it is for all women, because מרים was buried right where she died. From that פסוק, רבי אלעזר also learns that מרים died בנשיקה like משה, and רבי אמי and רבי אלעזר teach that the death of צדיקים brings כפרה, like פרה אדומה and בגדי כהונה. A ברייתא then names kinds of death by how many days a person was sick, with five days being the normal death of all people, and by the age at death, from כרת at fifty up to גבורות at eighty. רב יוסף celebrates passing sixty, and זוגא דמהדייב explains that after eighty even a sudden death is a מיתת נשיקה. רבא teaches that life, children and sustenance depend on מזל, not merit, and proves it from רבה and רב חסדא. The amud ends with stories of how great חכמים died and how some of them held off the מלאך המות for a while: רבא, רב נחמן, רבי אלעזר, רב ששת, רב אשי, רב חסדא and רבי חייא.

Opening lines

אֶלָּא חָיָה.

[It was taught] only about a woman who died in childbirth.

אֲבָל שְׁאָר נָשִׁים — מַנִּיחִין.

But other women — we may set [their biers] down.

רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אָמַר:

Rabbi Elazar said:

אֲפִילּוּ שְׁאָר הַנָּשִׁים,

Even other women [are not set down],

The steps (38)

  1. StatementThe rule applies only to a woman who died in childbirth
  2. Statementרבי אלעזר: the rule applies to all women
  3. Statementמרים also died by a divine kiss
  4. ProofThe source: a word link between מרים and משה
  5. QuestionWhy doesn't the verse say it openly about מרים?
  6. ResponseIt would be unseemly to say it
  7. Statementמרים's death next to פרה אדומה: the death of צדיקים atones
  8. Statementאהרן's death next to בגדי כהונה: the same lesson
  9. StatementA ברייתא: sudden death and death after one day of sickness
  10. Statementרבי חנניא בן גמליאל: one day of sickness is a death by plague
  11. StatementThe ברייתא continues: two to five days of sickness
  12. Proofרבי חנין finds the number five in a פסוק
  13. ResponseWhy הן counts as one
  14. StatementWhat it means to die at fifty, fifty-two, or sixty
  15. ProofA verse hinting that sixty is death by the hand of Heaven
  16. StatementSeventy is old age and eighty is strength
  17. StatementEvery age from fifty to sixty counts as an early death
  18. Statementרב יוסף celebrates turning sixty
  19. Challengeאביי: you still have not escaped the 'כרת of days'
  20. ResolutionHold on to at least half
  21. Questionרב הונא dies suddenly and the חכמים are worried
  22. ResponseAfter eighty, a sudden death is a 'death by a kiss'
  23. StatementLife, children, and sustenance depend on מזל
  24. Proofרבה and רב חסדא were equally righteous
  25. ProofTheir lives and families were completely different
  26. ProofTheir food and income were completely different
  27. Statementרבא's three requests from Heaven
  28. Statementרבא asks his brother to ask the מלאך המות to be gentle
  29. Statementרבא appears after death and describes the pain
  30. Statementרב נחמן says no one is important in Heaven
  31. Statementרב נחמן describes a gentle death but great fear
  32. Statementרבי אלעזר delays death while eating תרומה
  33. Statementרב ששת refuses to die in the marketplace
  34. Statementרב אשי asks for thirty days to review his learning
  35. StatementOn the thirtieth day: one leader's reign cannot overlap the next
  36. Statementרב חסדא's nonstop learning protects him
  37. StatementThe מלאך המות comes to רבי חייא disguised as a poor man
  38. StatementShow mercy to me too: רבי חייא gives himself over