Moed Katan 9a

מועד קטן ט׳ ע״א

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Topic

Weddings on ערב הרגל, the source for אין מערבין שמחה בשמחה, and the dedication of שלמה's מקדש

Overview

A ברייתא allows weddings on ערב הרגל. The גמרא shows this fits all three reasons for banning weddings on חול המועד: the main joy and the main work are only on the wedding day, and nobody delays his wedding for just one day. Next the גמרא looks for the source of אין מערבין שמחה בשמחה. It first tries to prove it from שלמה keeping the dedication of the בית המקדש separate from סוכות, but that proof is rejected. The real source turns out to be the extra words 'seven days and seven days' in the פסוק. That celebration went through יום הכיפורים, and the people relied on a קל וחומר from the משכן, whose offerings were brought even on שבת. The גמרא proves the משכן point from the double 'day' wording in two פסוקים, and carries it over to the מקדש. A פסוק shows that ישראל were forgiven, and that the gates of the מקדש opened only in דוד's merit, proving he was forgiven too. The amud ends with students of רבי שמעון בן יוחי, who learn from שלמה that a student must take leave of his teacher again. They then resolve a contradiction in משלי, and that answer finishes on the next amud.

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The steps (44)

1. ChallengeMarrying right before the festival seems to clash with every reason
2. ResolutionAnswer for the joy reason: the main joy is only one day
3. ResolutionAnswer for the work reason: the main work is only one day
4. ResolutionAnswer for the פריה ורביה reason: no one waits for just one day
5. QuestionWhere do we learn not to mix one joy with another?
6. ResponseThe פסוק about שלמה celebrating fourteen days
7. ProofWhy שלמה didn't combine the two celebrations
8. ChallengeMaybe we only don't wait for a festival on purpose
9. ResolutionHe could have left a little of the building unfinished
10. RejectionYou may not leave the בית המקדש unfinished
11. ResolutionHe could have left the raven spikes unfinished
12. RejectionThe raven spikes are part of the building too
13. ProofThe real proof comes from the extra words in the פסוק
14. StatementThat year ישראל did not keep יום הכיפורים
15. ResponseA בת קול promises them עולם הבא
16. QuestionWhat reasoning did the people use?
17. ResponseThe קל וחומר from the משכן
18. ChallengeThen why were they worried?
19. ResolutionHeaven's need versus human need
20. ChallengeSo they should have skipped the eating
21. ResolutionNo celebration without food and drink
22. QuestionHow do we know the משכן offerings overrode שבת?
23. RejectionThe first proof: the seventh day
24. Proofרב נחמן בר יצחק: one continuous stretch
25. ChallengeMaybe only the suitable days
26. ResolutionA second verse: the twelfth day
27. ChallengeMaybe the twelfth day also counts only fitting days
28. ResolutionTwo verses would not be needed for the same point
29. QuestionSource that the מקדש celebration overrode יום הכיפורים
30. RejectionFourteen days might mean only fitting days
31. ResponseLearned from 'day' and 'day' at the משכן
32. QuestionHow do we know they were forgiven?
33. Responseתחליפא quotes the verse about the people going home
34. ProofEach phrase of the verse explained, ending with the promise of the World to Come
35. QuestionWhat good was done for דוד?
36. ResponseThe gates of the מקדש would not open for שלמה
37. ProofMentioning דוד opens the gates and shows he was forgiven
38. StatementTwo students take leave of רבי שמעון בן יוחי twice
39. Questionרבי שמעון asks why they said goodbye again
40. ResponseThe students explain why they came back to say goodbye
41. ConclusionThe two dates prove a second goodbye is needed
42. Statementרבי שמעון בן יוחי sends his son to get a ברכה
43. ChallengeTwo פסוקים in משלי seem to contradict each other
44. ResolutionThe first פסוק is about a מצוה others can do