Nazir 12b
נזיר י״ב ע״ב
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Topic
Whether a שליח can be appointed for what the sender cannot do now; vows to pay for half a נזיר; and נזירות that depends on the birth of a son or child.
Overview
The amud opens by finishing a challenge to רבא, who ruled that a שליח for קידושין cannot marry the sender to a woman who was married when the שליח was appointed. The challenge compares this to a promise to pay for a future נזיר's shaving. The גמרא answers that a person only appoints a שליח for something he could do himself right now. It then tests that rule with a ברייתא about a husband who tells his אפוטרופוס to cancel his wife's future vows. Since the חכמים hold that a husband cannot cancel vows in advance, it seems a שליח can do more than the sender. The גמרא answers that the ברייתא may follow רבי אליעזר, who says a husband can cancel in advance. In that case, the husband appoints a steward only in case he forgets, gets angry or is busy. Next, a משנה discusses two people who each vow to pay for 'shaving half a נזיר', and רבא explains exactly which wording רבי מאיר and the חכמים argue about. Finally, a new משנה teaches that a vow to be a נזיר 'when I have a son' depends on a definite son, while 'when I have a child' is fulfilled by any baby.
Opening lines
אֶלָּא הָכִי קָאָמַר:
Rather, this is what he is saying:
אִי מַשְׁכַּחְנָא דְּהָוֵי נָזִיר, אֲגַלְּחֵיהּ.
If I find someone who becomes a nazirite, I will shave him.
הָכָא נָמֵי, הָכִי קָאָמַר לֵיהּ:
Here too, this is what he is saying to him:
אִי מַשְׁכַּחַתְּ דְּמִיגָּרְשָׁה, קַדֵּישׁ לִי.
If you find that she has been divorced, betroth her to me.
The steps (14)
- ChallengeFinishing the comparison to shaving a future נזיר
- ResolutionAn agent is only for what you could do now
- ChallengeChallenge from a steward told to cancel future vows
- ChallengeEven רבי יאשיה agrees, except for the פסוק
- ProofThe husband himself cannot cancel vows in advance
- ChallengeFinishing the challenge: the steward could act even though the husband can't
- RejectionMaybe רבי יאשיה follows רבי אליעזר
- ChallengeThen why appoint a steward at all?
- ResolutionHe worries he might forget, get angry or be busy
- Statementמשנה: two people each vow to pay for half a נזיר
- Statementרבא: what everyone agrees on, and why
- Statementרבא explains where and why רבי מאיר and the חכמים disagree
- StatementNew משנה: a vow to be a נזיר when a son is born
- StatementThe משנה continues: a vow to be a נזיר when a child is born