Gemara Clarity

Nazir 32a

נזיר ל״ב ע״א

Learn Nazir 32a step by step: Aramaic beside English, every question, answer and proof colour-coded.

Open Nazir 32a in Gemara Clarity

Topic

Whose view the משנה on a refused נזיר follows; undoing a vow uproots הקדש; mistaken versus deliberate labeling in מעשר בהמה

Overview

This amud opens with the last words of the משנה about counting animals for מעשר בהמה. The גמרא asks whose view the משנה follows when it lets a נזיר count from the day he vowed. A ברייתא shows the רבנן and רבי יוסי arguing about a נזיר who broke his vow, and at first the משנה seems to fit neither. The גמרא answers that it can fit רבי יוסי if it is about a short נזירות, or the רבנן if we read 'like from the time he vowed'. Next, רבי ירמיה shows that when a חכם undoes a נזיר's vow, both בית שמאי and בית הלל agree his animal goes back to the flock. The גמרא then brings a dispute between רב נחמן and רב חסדא with רבה בר רב הונא: does calling the wrong animal 'tenth' on purpose make it holy? רבא challenges רב נחמן, רב שימי בר אשי defends him with a קל וחומר, and the גמרא rejects that קל וחומר because הקדש depends on the owner's intention. Finally, a new משנה begins about a נזיר whose animal was stolen.

Opening lines

וְאֶת אַחַד עָשָׂר.

And the eleventh.

גְּמָ׳ מַנִּי מַתְנִיתִין?

גמרא: Whose view is our משנה?

לָא רַבִּי יוֹסֵי וְלָא רַבָּנַן.

Not רבי יוסי and not the רבנן.

דְּתַנְיָא:

As it is taught:

The steps (15)

  1. StatementThe last words of the משנה
  2. QuestionWhose view does the משנה follow?
  3. ProofThe ברייתא about a נזיר who broke his vow
  4. ChallengeEach view clashes with the משנה in a different case
  5. ResolutionThe משנה can fit רבי יוסי: long versus short נזירות
  6. ResolutionThe משנה can fit the רבנן if we read 'like from the time he vowed'
  7. Statementרבי ירמיה: we can learn בית הלל's view from בית שמאי
  8. ProofEven בית שמאי agree the animal goes back to the flock
  9. Conclusionבית הלל agree too, because a תמורה falls away when the first הקדש falls away
  10. StatementMistake versus purpose when labeling the tenth animal
  11. Challengeרבא recalls בית שמאי's argument and בית הלל's silence
  12. Challengeבית הלל had an easy reply, so why didn't they use it?
  13. ResolutionThe reply would fail because of a קל וחומר
  14. RejectionThe קל וחומר is rejected because הקדש depends on the owner's intention
  15. StatementNew משנה: the נזיר whose animal was stolen