Nazir 38b

נזיר ל״ח ע״ב

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Topic

נזיר: amounts for liability, separate liability for grape products, and whether there is מלקות for a לאו שבכללות

Overview

The גמרא first explains why the תנא קמא and רבי עקיבא in the משנה disagree about how much a נזיר must eat or drink to be liable. A ברייתא then teaches that fresh grapes and dried grapes each bring their own liability. From there it builds a rule for the whole תורה: one kind of food with two names brings two liabilities, and this includes new wine and grapes. אביי and רבא then argue over how many sets of מלקות a נזיר gets for eating a grape seed or skin. Their argument turns on whether there is מלקות for a לאו שבכללות. רב פפא challenges אביי from a ברייתא where רבי אליעזר counts only five sets of מלקות. The גמרא tries to answer that the list is incomplete, then tests and rejects that answer. רבינא then points out a real omission, and רב פפא concludes that the ברייתא never gave a number at all. A new challenge to this begins at the end of the amud and continues on the next one.

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The steps (14)

1. StatementWhy the two opinions disagree about the amount
2. ProofFresh and dried grapes each bring their own liability
3. StatementA rule for the whole תורה: one kind with two names
4. StatementThe rule includes new wine and grapes
5. Statementאביי: extra lashes for the general prohibition
6. Statementרבא: no lashes for a general prohibition
7. Challengeרב פפא challenges אביי from רבי אליעזר's count of five
8. ResolutionThe list is not complete
9. QuestionWhat else did he leave out?
10. ResponseHe also left out "He shall not break his word"
11. RejectionThat one does not count as left out
12. Challengeרבינא: the in-between parts are missing too
13. Resolutionרב פפא: no number five was taught
14. ChallengeA new challenge begins