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Nazir 50b

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Topic

Whether a poured stream (נצוק) connects for melted foods, and the size of a 'full ladle of רקב'

Overview

The amud opens with the end of the משנה, where בית שמאי add thick bean stews to the list of liquids whose poured stream counts as connected. רמי בר חמא asks whether melted foods also get this stream connection. The answer depends on whether the משנה's reason is that those liquids pull back or simply that they are thick. רבא tries to prove it from melted fat of a dead body, but רבי זירא explains that case as fat that hardened into one piece. רבינא tries a proof from בית שמאי's wording, and רב אשי answers that honey and stew connect for different reasons. The גמרא then turns to the משנה's 'full ladle of רקב'. חזקיה says it is a full palm and רבי יוחנן says it is a full handful. The גמרא matches רבי יוחנן to the חכמים and חזקיה to רבי מאיר. רב שימי בר אדא's question about which direction רבי מאיר meant ends in תיקו.

Opening lines

בֵּית שַׁמַּאי אוֹמְרִים:

Beit Shammai say:

אַף הַמִּקְפָּה שֶׁל גְּרִיסִין וְשֶׁל פּוֹל,

Even a stew of crushed beans or of whole beans [connects],

מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהִיא סוֹלֶדֶת לַאֲחוֹרֶיהָ.

because it pulls back toward its source.

בָּעֵי רָמֵי בַּר חָמָא:

Rami bar Chama asked:

The steps (14)

  1. Statementבית שמאי add bean stews to the list
  2. QuestionDoes the stream rule apply to foods?
  3. QuestionThe two sides of the question
  4. Proofרבא's proof from melted fat of a dead body
  5. Rejectionרבי זירא: the fat stuck together at the rim
  6. Proofרבינא tries a proof from בית שמאי's bean stew
  7. RejectionHoney's reason is different from בית שמאי's reason for stew
  8. QuestionHow big is a full ladle of decayed dust?
  9. Responseחזקיה says a palm, רבי יוחנן says a handful
  10. StatementA teaching where רבי מאיר and the חכמים disagree
  11. ChallengeWhose opinion does חזקיה follow?
  12. ResolutionA full palm equals רבי מאיר's measure
  13. QuestionWhich direction is 'upward'?
  14. ConclusionThe question stays unanswered