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Nazir 64b

נזיר ס״ד ע״ב

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Topic

Whether waiting for sunset counts as 'missing' a step in the hidden-grave and יולדת cases, and a new משנה on finding buried corpses

Overview

רב המנונא rules that a נזיר and someone bringing a קרבן פסח who walked over a hidden grave (קבר התהום) on the seventh day of their purification stay pure, because טומאת התהום is too weak to undo what they did. רבא challenges him from a משנה that says someone still in חזקת טמא stays impure. רב המנונא concedes about the נזיר, who still has to shave, and רבא concedes about the עושה פסח, who is missing no action. אביי objects that the עושה פסח still has to wait for sunset (הערב שמש). רבא answers that the sun sets by itself, so waiting for it does not count as something missing. The גמרא then shows that אביי later accepted this, using a ברייתא about a woman who miscarried on or before יום מלאת. There, רב כהנא asks why a woman who must wait for sunset counts as complete, and אביי himself answers that the sun sets by itself. A new משנה then begins: one or two corpses found in a new place may be removed with their surrounding earth, but three corpses spaced four to eight אמות apart make the place a שכונת קברות.

Opening lines

אָמַר רַב הַמְנוּנָא:

Rav Hamnuna said:

נָזִיר וְעוֹשֵׂה פֶסַח

A nazirite and one performing the Paschal offering

שֶׁהָלְכוּ בְּקֶבֶר הַתְּהוֹם

who walked by a grave in the depths

בַּשְּׁבִיעִי שֶׁלָּהֶן — טְהוֹרִים.

on their seventh day — they are pure.

The steps (15)

  1. Statementרב המנונא: A hidden grave does not undo purity on the seventh day
  2. Challengeרבא challenges from the משנה about presumptive impurity
  3. Resolutionרב המנונא concedes regarding the נזיר
  4. Statementרבא concedes regarding the קרבן פסח
  5. Challengeאביי objects that the עושה פסח still needs sunset
  6. Resolutionרבא: sunset happens by itself
  7. Statementאביי also changes his mind
  8. ProofMiscarriage on the day of completion versus during the days
  9. QuestionA possible mistaken reading
  10. ResponseThe פסוק limits the extra קרבן to the day of completion itself
  11. Statementרב כהנא explains why the days of purity are different
  12. ChallengeBut on the day of completion she is also missing something
  13. Resolutionאביי: sunset happens by itself
  14. StatementNew משנה: finding one or two buried corpses
  15. StatementThree corpses spaced apart make a graveyard