Niddah 11a

נדה י״א ע״א

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Topic

Whether jumping that brings on bleeding sets a וסת, and the new משנה on when a woman with a fixed וסת must still check herself.

Overview

The amud opens with the end of a משנה. רבי מאיר says pregnant and nursing women keep the leniency of 'their time is sufficient' even if they keep bleeding. רבי יוסי, רבי יהודה and רבי שמעון limit it to the first sighting. רב הונא rules that a woman who jumped and saw blood three times sets a וסת. The גמרא concludes that this is a combined וסת of days plus jumps, and רב אשי gives a case to show why. A second version of רב הונא says the same case sets a וסת of days alone. A new משנה teaches that even a woman with a fixed וסת must check herself and use checking cloths, and it lists when she checks. The exceptions are a נדה and a woman in her days of דם טוהר. The גמרא explains why a נדה need not check, even according to רבי יוחנן. It then tests the exception of דם טוהר against the argument between רב and לוי, and לוי's answer continues on the next amud.

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The steps (23)

1. Statementרבי מאיר: Pregnant and nursing women stay lenient even while bleeding
2. StatementThe other תנאים: The leniency covers only the first sighting
3. Statementרב הונא: Jumping and seeing blood three times sets a וסת
4. QuestionWhat kind of cycle did she set? Not one of days
5. ResponseRather, the cycle is one of jumps
6. ChallengeA ברייתא says an אונס pattern sets no וסת
7. ResolutionNo: Only days alone or jumps alone fail; days plus jumps works
8. ChallengeDays alone is obvious
9. Resolutionרב אשי: A case where days alone might have seemed to count
10. ResolutionThe jump on Shabbat also caused the Sunday bleeding
11. StatementSecond version: רב הונא says the pattern is for days, not jumps
12. QuestionWhat case is רב הונא talking about?
13. Responseרב אשי: the same case now shows the day is the cause
14. StatementNew משנה: even with a fixed cycle, she must check herself
15. StatementShe uses checking cloths at relations, with two exceptions
16. StatementThe regular times a woman checks herself
17. StatementWomen of כהנים families check more often
18. StatementWhy a נדה does not need to check
19. ChallengeAccording to רבי יוחנן, she should check
20. Resolutionרבי יוחנן limits his rule to a closed source
21. StatementFirst reading of 'sitting on דם טוהר'
22. ChallengeThis reading works for רב but not for לוי
23. Resolutionלוי asks whose opinion the משנה follows