Niddah 20a
נדה כ׳ ע״א
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Topic
Identifying and checking the five colors of impure blood: red, black, crocus, water of earth, and diluted wine
Overview
The גמרא finishes defending its definition of the red color (אדום) of impure blood. אמימר then shows his colleagues what that red looks like, and רב אשי admits that someone who cannot tell such shades apart should not rule on blood. Next, the משנה's 'black like חרת' is explained as the darkest part of dry ink, and several אמוראים give familiar samples of the black shade, such as wax, grapes, a סיואה garment, and the bath attendants' cloths. שמואל and רב יצחק בר אבודימי argue about whether black blood is checked on a white cloth or a red one. עולא, רבי אמי בר אבא, רמי בר אבא, and בר קפרא then give different views on whether shades darker or lighter than the משנה's measures are טמא or טהור. For the crocus color, the standard is moist saffron, the middle leaf of the middle layer, still in its clumps of earth, and this settles four seemingly conflicting ברייתות. Finally, the גמרא explains how to prepare the 'water of earth' sample. It ends a question about stirring by hand with תיקו and reports practical rulings on where and how the earth check may be done.
Opening lines
בְּקִילוֹר,
to an eye salve,
וְרַבִּי תָּלָה בִּשְׂרַף שִׁקְמָה.
and רבי attributed a stain to the sap of a sycamore.
מַאי לַָאו אַאָדוֹם?
What, is it not about the red color?
לָא, אַשְּׁאָר דָּמִים.
No, it is about the other bloods.
The steps (45)
- ChallengeDo reddish stains prove that a lighter red is also impure?
- ResolutionThose stains looked like the other blood colors
- Statementאמימר shows what the red of the משנה looks like
- Conclusionרב אשי: someone who can't tell the shades apart shouldn't rule on blood
- StatementThe black 'like חרת' means ink
- ProofA ברייתא supports that the black is ink
- ChallengeWhy not just say 'ink'?
- Resolutionחרת means the darkest part of the ink
- QuestionIs the measuring ink wet or dry?
- Responseרבי אמי used dry ink
- Statementשמואל: wax, ink, and grape colors are impure
- Statementרבי אלעזר: olive, tar, and raven colors are pure
- Statementעולא: like a סיואה garment
- Statementעולא points out the black garment in פומבדיתא
- Statementרבי יוחנן: like the bath attendants' cloths from overseas
- ChallengeAre those cloths really black? רבי ינאי's burial request
- ResolutionSame cloth, different look: worn as a garment or spread on a table
- StatementAll blood colors are checked on a white cloth
- StatementBlack blood is checked on a red cloth
- ResolutionThey do not argue: black on red, the rest on white
- ChallengeThen שמואל should have said 'except for black'
- ResolutionThey argue about black itself
- StatementFor every color: darker is impure, lighter is pure, just like black
- ChallengeWhy did the משנה mention only black?
- ResolutionBlack needed its own mention because of רבי חנינא's idea
- Statementרבי אמי בר אבא: darker or lighter, all are טמא except black
- ChallengeThen what are the measures for?
- ResolutionThe measures rule out a very faint shade
- StatementAnother version: רמי בר אבא says darker or lighter, all are טהור except black
- Statementבר קפרא: darker is טמא, lighter is טהור, except diluted wine
- Proofבר קפרא is tested and rules טהור both ways
- Conclusionרבי חנינא praises בר קפרא
- StatementSaffron color means fresh, moist saffron
- ChallengeFour teachings disagree about which part of the flower
- Resolutionאביי: the flower has three layers of three leaves
- ConclusionUse the middle leaf of the middle layer
- Statementרבי אבהו: the crocus must still be in its clumps of earth
- StatementWhich valley's earth is used for the 'water of earth' color
- StatementHow to prepare the muddy water sample
- QuestionWhat does 'not by hand but with a vessel' mean?
- ProofA proof: the check is done only in a cup
- RejectionThe proof fails: checking is not the same as stirring
- ConclusionThe question is left unresolved
- StatementThe earth check works only in its own place
- StatementChecking with a dry clump of earth is condemned