Pesachim 37a

פסחים ל״ז ע״א

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Topic

Baking מצה on פסח: the meaning of פת עבה, shaped מצה, חלה for pot-made and sun-baked dough, and the definition of half-baked מצה.

Overview

This amud opens at the end of a dispute: בית שמאי forbid baking פת עבה and בית הלל permit it. רב הונא says פת עבה means bread a טפח thick, like לחם הפנים. רב יוסף rejects that comparison, listing five ways baking in the בית המקדש was faster and safer than baking at home. Instead, פת עבה is defined as a large batch of bread, and the ban is explained as unnecessary work on any יום טוב, not only on פסח. Next, a ברייתא teaches that shaped מצה fulfills the מצוה but should not be made in the first place, because shaping delays the dough and it may become חמץ. The גמרא then discusses which baked goods are exempt from חלה. ריש לקיש and רבי יוחנן argue about dough made in a pot, and עולא defends ריש לקיש by distinguishing between heating the pot first and sticking the dough on first. The amud ends by defining half-baked מצה. רבא applies the same test to the תודה loaves, and his answer to why that teaching is needed begins here and continues on the next amud.

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The steps (38)

1. Statementבית הלל permit baking thick bread
2. QuestionHow thick is thick bread?
3. Responseרב הונא: a handbreadth, like the showbread
4. Challengeרב יוסף: the Temple bakers were diligent and kneaded well
5. Challengeרב יוסף continues: dry wood, hot oven, metal oven
6. ResponseA new definition: thick bread means a large batch
7. QuestionWhy call a large batch "thick bread"?
8. ResponseFirst answer: it needs a lot of kneading
9. ResponseSecond answer: local usage
10. ChallengeWhy single out פסח if the problem is needless effort?
11. ResolutionYes, it applies to every יום טוב; the תנא was simply discussing פסח
12. ProofA ברייתא confirms the dispute is about every Festival
13. StatementWhich kinds of מצה fulfill the obligation
14. Questionביתוס בן זונין asks why shaped מצה is not made
15. ResponseShaping takes too long and the dough becomes חמץ
16. ChallengeBaitos suggests a mold that shapes the matzah instantly
17. ResolutionPeople would not understand the distinction
18. StatementShaped מצה is served at רבן גמליאל's home
19. ChallengeThe son asks how this is allowed
20. ResolutionThe ban is only for bakers
21. ResolutionSecond version: the ban is for ordinary people
22. StatementThin shaped wafers are allowed, thick loaves are not
23. StatementA list of baked goods exempt from חלה
24. QuestionWhat is חלת המסרת?
25. ResponseIt is scalded dough made by homeowners
26. Statementריש לקיש: exempt because they are pot-cooked
27. Statementרבי יוחנן: exempt because they are baked in the sun
28. ChallengeA ברייתא says pot-made cakes are obligated, against ריש לקיש
29. Resolutionעולא: The pot was heated first, then the dough was stuck on
30. ChallengeWhy didn't the ברייתא teach the opposite pot case?
31. ResolutionThe ברייתא is missing words: the pot case is like the sun
32. ChallengePot-made מצה works for the מצוה, so it counts as bread
33. ResolutionSame answer: the pot was heated before the dough went on
34. QuestionWhat counts as half-baked מצה?
35. Responseשמואל: no dough strands when you break it
36. Statementרבא: the same test applies to the תודה breads
37. ChallengeWhy did רבא need to say this? Both are called 'לחם'
38. ResolutionWe might have thought the תודה is different because of 'והקריב ממנו'