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Pesachim 52a

פסחים נ״ב ע״א

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Topic

יום טוב שני for one who knows the calendar; punishing רב נתן בר אסיא; and explanations of רבי יהודה's view on moving פירות שביעית

Overview

The amud opens by finishing a question about doing מלאכה on יום טוב שני for someone who knows the calendar. רב אמי rules that it is forbidden in a settled area, because of מחלוקת, but permitted in the desert. Next comes a story: רב יוסף punished רב נתן בר אסיא for traveling on the second day of שבועות. In one version he gave נידוי; in the other he gave מלקות. Both versions rely on the practice in ארץ ישראל of flogging a תלמיד חכם rather than excommunicating him. The גמרא then returns to the משנה about carrying פירות שביעית. It asks how רבי יהודה can disagree with the rule that a traveler keeps the strictness of both places. רב שישא answers by moving רבי יהודה's words to a different case, and then, after a challenge, the גמרא reverses the opinions so that רבי יהודה is strict. אביי keeps the text and explains it as a return-trip case, but רב אשי rejects this. רב אשי instead compares the argument to a dispute about three vegetables pickled in one barrel, and רבינא begins comparing it to a dispute about dates in צוער, which continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

בַּיִּישּׁוּב לָא עָבֵידְנָא

In a settled area I do not do [labor]

מִפְּנֵי שִׁינּוּי הַמַּחְלוֹקֶת.

because of deviation [from custom] that causes dispute.

בַּמִּדְבָּר מַאי?

In the desert, what [is the rule]?

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: הָכִי אָמַר רַב אַמֵּי:

He said to him: Thus said Rav Ami:

The steps (19)

  1. QuestionLabor on יום טוב שני in the desert
  2. Responseרב אמי: forbidden in town, permitted in the desert
  3. Statementרב נתן בר אסיא travels on the second day of שבועות
  4. Challengeאביי: why not flog him instead?
  5. ResolutionExcommunication is the harsher punishment for a scholar
  6. StatementSecond version: רב יוסף flogged him
  7. Challengeאביי: רב and שמואל require excommunication
  8. ResolutionA scholar is spared excommunication for his benefit
  9. StatementQuoting the משנה on transporting Sabbatical produce
  10. ChallengeDoes רבי יהודה reject the rule of both places' stringencies?
  11. Resolutionרב שישא: רבי יהודה is discussing a different case
  12. ChallengeChallenge: רבי יהודה only spoke as a stringency
  13. ResolutionReverse the opinions so רבי יהודה is strict
  14. Resolutionאביי keeps the text and explains a return-trip case
  15. Challengeרב אשי: Did the donkey's back make the fruit forbidden?
  16. Resolutionרב אשי links the argument to a dispute about pickling
  17. Resolutionרבי יהושע: Follow the last vegetable
  18. Resolutionרבן גמליאל: Each vegetable follows its own kind
  19. Resolutionרבינא links the argument to a dispute about dates