Sanhedrin 48b

סנהדרין מ״ח ע״ב

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Topic

Whether designation (הזמנה) counts, who inherits from people executed by the king, and how דוד's curses on יואב came true in דוד's line

Overview

Earlier on this daf, אביי held that setting an item aside (הזמנה) for a purpose already gives it that status, while רבא held that only actual use counts. The גמרא rejects a proof for רבא from clothes thrown on a bier, and explains with עולא that the ban there is only so people won't confuse them with shrouds. A proof for אביי from a pouch for תפילין is rejected by reading it like רב חסדא. A ברייתא about a case for a ספר תורה seems to support רבא, but the גמרא says the question is an older argument among תנאים. After רבא shows that a garment woven after death really happens, as in הרפניא, the גמרא rules that the הלכה follows רבא. Then a new ברייתא argues whether the property of people executed by the king goes to the king or to the heirs. The גמרא tests this with נבות's vineyard and with יואב grabbing the מזבח, and turns the proofs aside. The story of יואב leads to רב's teaching that דוד's curses on יואב came true in דוד's own descendants: רחבעם, עוזיהו, אסא, יאשיהו and יכניה. The explanation of יכניה's curse continues on the next amud.

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The steps (34)

1. RejectionThe clothes thrown on the bier were thrown out of grief
2. ChallengeWhy would clothes that touched the bier be forbidden?
3. Resolutionעולא: the bier is buried with him, so people might confuse the clothes with shrouds
4. ProofA pouch made for תפילין may not hold money
5. RejectionRead it as: made for תפילין and also used for them
6. ProofA case ordered for a ספר or תפילין stays ordinary until used
7. ConclusionThe designation question is already a dispute among תנאים
8. QuestionDoes anyone really weave a garment after death
9. ResponseYes, like the dead of הרפניא
10. StatementTwo opinions on whose view is the הלכה
11. ConclusionFinal ruling follows רבא
12. StatementWho gets the property of executed people
13. ChallengeChallenge from נבות's vineyard
14. Resolutionאחאב inherited נבות as a relative
15. ChallengeBut נבות had many sons
16. Resolutionאחאב killed נבות's sons too
17. QuestionHow do the חכמים read that פסוק?
18. ResponseThe verse means his future children
19. ChallengeWhy did the witnesses add 'and king'?
20. ResolutionBoth charges were to stir up anger
21. ChallengeWhy did יואב hold on to the מזבח?
22. Resolutionיואב just wanted to live a little longer
23. Statementיואב's message to שלמה: you can't have it both ways
24. Statementשלמה answers: do as he said and kill him
25. StatementAll of דוד's curses on יואב came true in דוד's family
26. ProofThe curse of זב came true in רחבעם
27. ProofThe curse of צרעת came true in עוזיהו
28. ProofThe curse of holding a staff came true in אסא
29. Questionמר זוטרא asks what gout is like
30. Responseרב נחמן: like a needle in living flesh
31. QuestionHow did רב נחמן know?
32. ResponseThree possible ways רב נחמן knew
33. ProofThe curse of falling by the sword came true in יאשיהו
34. ProofThe curse of lacking bread is linked to יכניה