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Shabbos 129a

שבת קכ״ט ע״א

Shabbat 129a

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Topic

A חיה on שבת (stages after birth, טבילה, fire for warmth), and caring for one's health after הקזת דם

Overview

This amud opens by finishing רב אשי's version of שמואל's ruling about desecrating שבת for a חיה. Then it quotes מר זוטרא's more lenient version, and מרימר rules like מר זוטרא because of ספק נפשות להקל. The גמרא next defines when the 'open womb' period starts and how long it lasts. The נהרדעי combine the numbers 3, 7, and 30 into stages: breaking שבת always, then only on her request, then only through a non-Jew. A separate 30-day teaching of שמואל is explained as a delay before טבילה, which רבא limits to when her husband is away. The גמרא then rules that a fire may be lit on שבת for anyone endangered by cold, in any season. This leads into a long section on הקזת דם: protecting the body outweighs בל תשחית, and a person must eat well afterward. Several stories and tips from the חכמים follow. The amud ends with warnings to avoid wind and to eat before going outside, and that list continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

״צְרִיכָה אֲנִי״, בֵּין לֹא אָמְרָה ״צְרִיכָה אֲנִי״

…'I need it,' or whether she did not say 'I need it'

— אֵין מְחַלְּלִין עָלֶיהָ אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת.

we do not desecrate Shabbat for her.

רַב אָשֵׁי מַתְנֵי הָכִי.

That is how Rav Ashi taught it.

מָר זוּטְרָא מַתְנֵי הָכִי:

Mar Zutra taught it this way:

The steps (41)

  1. StatementEnd of רב אשי's version: after the womb closes, no desecration
  2. Statementמר זוטרא's version: after the womb closes, her request is enough
  3. Questionרבינא asks which version is the הלכה
  4. Responseמרימר rules like מר זוטרא because a life may be at stake
  5. QuestionWhen does the 'opening of the womb' begin?
  6. Responseאביי: from when she sits on the birthing chair
  7. Responseרב הונא בריה דרב יהושע: from when blood flows, or when friends support her
  8. QuestionHow long does the open-womb status last?
  9. Responseאביי says three days
  10. Responseרבא says seven, or by another version thirty
  11. StatementThe נהרדעי combine 3, 7, and 30 into stages
  12. ProofThe non-Jew rule matches רב עולא and רב המנונא
  13. Statementשמואל: a woman after birth has a 30-day rule
  14. QuestionWhich law is this 30 days about?
  15. ResponseThe 30 days are about immersion
  16. Statementרבא limits the 30-day rule to when the husband is away
  17. ProofThe tragic story of רב חסדא's daughter
  18. Statementשמואל: make a fire on שבת for a woman after childbirth in the rainy season
  19. StatementThe mistaken narrow reading of שמואל
  20. RejectionNo difference between a יולדת and a sick person, or winter and summer
  21. ProofProof: a fire even in תמוז for someone chilled after bloodletting
  22. ProofFurniture broken to make fires for שמואל, רב יהודה and רבה
  23. Challengeאביי objects: isn't this בל תשחית?
  24. Resolutionרבה: not destroying my own body matters more
  25. StatementSell your house beams for shoes, and your shoes for a meal after bloodletting
  26. QuestionWhat counts as the needs of a meal
  27. ResponseMeat or wine
  28. StatementThe reasons: life for life, red for red
  29. StatementA memory aid for the coming stories
  30. Proofשמואל ate a dish of spleen after bloodletting
  31. ProofHow much wine three Sages drank after bloodletting
  32. Proofרבא looked for well-aged wine
  33. StatementTell your wives an important guest is coming
  34. StatementThe one permitted trick: tasting wine with a worn coin
  35. StatementBackup remedy: black dates, oil, and sunshine
  36. Proofאבלט finds שמואל lying in the sun
  37. RejectionThe real reason: the day of תקופת תמוז
  38. StatementA memory aid, then: whoever is careless with the bloodletting meal loses Heaven's care
  39. StatementAfter bloodletting, do not sit in the wind
  40. Proofשמואל felt weak when his wall was missing half a brick
  41. StatementEat something before going outside after bloodletting