Shabbos 29a

שבת כ״ט ע״א

Shabbat 29a

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Topic

נולד on יום טוב and the wick-cloth משנה: רבא's singed-wick reason, the dispute between רבי יהודה and רבי שמעון over broken vessels, pits and shells, and רב המנונא's small-scrap explanation

Overview

The גמרא continues discussing whether רבי אליעזר and רבי עקיבא in the wick משנה hold like רבי יהודה that נולד is forbidden on יום טוב. It shows that רב אדא בר אהבה was only explaining the תנאים and does not hold that way himself. רבא gives a different reason for רבי אליעזר: a wick that was not singed may not be lit. רב יוסף's 'exactly three by three' is then explained as a rule about טומאה. רב quotes the dispute between רבי יהודה and רבי שמעון about burning broken vessels, date pits and nutshells, and the גמרא explains why all three cases were needed. It then tells the story with רבי חייא that this teaching came from, and asks whether רב accepted it; the attempted proof is pushed off. The גמרא next shows how whole vessels can be burned according to רבי יהודה, by adding prepared wood following רב מתנה. Finally, רב המנונא explains that the משנה is about a scrap smaller than three by three handbreadths. Each sage follows his own view from a משנה in כלים, and all agree that a scrap thrown into the garbage is טהור.

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The steps (18)

1. ChallengeA ruling that seems to ignore נולד
2. ResolutionHe was only explaining the תנאים
3. Statementרבא's different reason for רבי אליעזר
4. ChallengeThen why did רב יוסף stress 'exactly three by three'?
5. Resolutionרב יוסף was talking about טומאה
6. Statementרב quotes the dispute about burning broken or leftover items
7. ResolutionWhy the dates case was needed after the vessels case
8. ConclusionWhy the nuts case was also needed
9. Statementרב's teaching came from a story, not an explicit statement
10. QuestionDid רב accept רבי חייא's ruling?
11. ProofAttempted proof that רב did not accept it
12. RejectionNo, these were Aramean dates with fruit still on the pits
13. ChallengeHow can whole vessels be burned if they quickly become broken?
14. ResolutionAdd prepared wood, following רב מתנה
15. Statementרב המנונא: the משנה is about a cloth smaller than three by three
16. StatementEach sage follows his own known opinion
17. ProofThe משנה in כלים about small cloth scraps
18. StatementEveryone agrees a scrap thrown in the garbage is טהור