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Shabbos 82a

שבת פ״ב ע״א

Shabbat 82a

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Topic

Bathroom safety and health advice, the size of a shard for carrying on שבת, and the opening of the פרק on עבודה זרה and טומאת משא.

Overview

This amud opens at the end of a story about כשפים, listing careless habits, like wiping with a shard, that expose a person to harm. רב הונא then urges his son רבה to learn from רב חסדא, whose bathroom advice protects human life. The גמרא brings practical disputes about wiping: a stone versus a shard, settled by reading the ברייתא as smooth vessel rims, and a stone versus grasses, settled by distinguishing moist from dry. It continues with health advice about holding it in, what to do when one cannot go, and walking before a long meal. A new משנה then debates how big a pottery shard must be to make one liable for carrying it on שבת. The גמרא shows that רבי מאיר's fire-scooping size is larger than רבי יוסי's and explains how רבי מאיר reads the end of the פסוק. The פרק המוציא יין ends with a הדרן. A new פרק opens with רבי עקיבא's source that an idol makes impure through carrying, like a נדה, and the גמרא begins by quoting a related משנה whose discussion continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

דְּלָא מִקַּנַּח לְכוּ בְּחַסְפָּא,

for you do not wipe yourselves with a shard,

וְלָא קְטִיל לְכוּ כִּינָּא אַמָּנַיְיכוּ,

and you do not kill lice on your garments,

וְלָא שְׁלִיף לְכוּ יַרְקָא

and you do not pull out a vegetable

וַאֲכִיל לְכוּ מִכִּישָּׁא דְּאָסַר גִּינָּאָה.

and eat it from the bundle that the gardener tied.

The steps (29)

  1. StatementHabits that protect from witchcraft
  2. Questionרב הונא asks why רבה avoids רב חסדא
  3. Responseרבה complains that רב חסדא teaches everyday matters
  4. Rejectionרב הונא: this protects life, so go all the more
  5. StatementDispute: stone or shard for wiping
  6. ChallengeA ברייתא contradicts רב הונא
  7. Resolutionרפרם בר פפא: the ברייתא means smooth vessel rims
  8. StatementDispute: stone or grasses for wiping
  9. ChallengeA ברייתא warns against wiping with flammable things
  10. ResolutionMoist grasses versus dry grasses
  11. StatementDispute over the harm of holding it in
  12. ProofA ברייתא supports the foul-odor view
  13. StatementTips for someone who cannot go
  14. ChallengeDiverting the mind should make it worse
  15. ResolutionDivert the mind from other things
  16. ProofAn eyewitness report backs רב חסדא's tip
  17. StatementWalk before a long meal
  18. StatementHow big a shard must be to make one liable
  19. Proofרבי מאיר brings a hint from a פסוק
  20. Rejectionרבי יוסי turns the פסוק around
  21. QuestionWhose shard size is bigger?
  22. ResponseLogic points one way, the verse points the other
  23. ProofHow the verse shows רבי מאיר's size is bigger
  24. Proofאביי: the fire shard is for a big blaze
  25. Challengeרבי יוסי's argument seems strong
  26. Resolutionרבי מאיר reads the verse as a build-up
  27. ConclusionHadran — Closing פרק המוציא יין
  28. Statementרבי עקיבא: an idol makes impure through carrying, like a נדה
  29. StatementQuoting a related משנה about a house next to an idol temple