Shevuos 12a
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Shevuot 12a
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Topic
The source for לב בית דין מתנה, what רבי שמעון does with leftover תמיד lambs, and the גזירה against offering a former חטאת as an עולה
Overview
The גמרא is looking for a תנא who holds that the בית דין silently sets conditions on הקדש even for something that rarely happens. It tries three sources: the רבנן of קטורת, the רבנן of פרה אדומה, and the speakers of "אמרו לו" in the משנה. Each one is pushed aside. Incense cannot be left to graze, a פרה is very expensive, and the "אמרו לו" speaker might be רבי מאיר, who allows swapping the goats for a different reason. So the גמרא concludes that רבי יוחנן simply learned the dispute as a tradition. רבי יוחנן then explains that for רבי שמעון the leftover תמיד lambs are offered as filler offerings for the מזבח. רבי שמואל בר רב יצחק adds that leftover חטאת goats are not offered themselves; only their value is used, because of a גזירה made after atonement on account of before atonement. אביי, רבא and רבינא each bring a source supporting this גזירה, and the גמרא accepts it. Finally, a ברייתא is opened that asks what is brought from the leftover lambs, and it continues on the next amud.
Opening lines
שָׁאנֵי קְטוֹרֶת
Incense is different
דְּלָא בַּר רְעִיָּה הִיא!
since it is not something that can graze!
אֶלָּא רַבָּנַן דְּפָרָה –
Rather, the Rabbis of the heifer case
דִּלְמָא שָׁאנֵי פָּרָה
Perhaps the heifer is different
The steps (18)
- RejectionIncense is different: it cannot be left to graze
- ProofSuggesting the רבנן of the red heifer
- RejectionThe heifer is different: it is very expensive
- ProofSuggesting the רבנן of "they said to him"
- RejectionHow do we know the speaker is רבי יהודה reasoning from the court's condition?
- RejectionMaybe the speaker in the משנה is רבי מאיר
- Conclusionרבי יוחנן had a received tradition
- QuestionWhat does רבי שמעון do with the leftover lambs?
- ResponseThey are used as filler offerings for the מזבח
- Statementרבי שמעון agrees that חטאת goats are not offered themselves
- ResolutionWhy lambs can be offered but sin-offering goats cannot
- Proofאביי brings a ברייתא about lost public sin offerings
- Proofאביי shows how the ברייתא proves the decree
- Proofרבא brings support from a משנה about the יום הכפורים goats
- ProofWhy not offer the extra goat itself?
- Proofרבינא brings a third source: a משנה about a guilt offering
- ProofThe guilt offering proves the decree
- ProofA ברייתא about leftover lambs