Succah 10b
סוכה י׳ ע״ב
Sukkah 10b
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Topic
סוכה decorations, and when a כילה or canopy counts as a separate tent (for סוכה and for קריאת שמע)
Overview
The amud opens at the end of a ברייתא that seems to support decorating a סוכה with sheets, but the גמרא rejects the proof because the sheets may have hung on the walls. It then rules that decorations hanging from the סכך do not reduce the סוכה's size, and רב אשי adds that decorations on the side do. A story about רב אשי's servant מנימין shows that even a drying shirt on the סוכה must come down once it could look like סכך that can become טמא. רב נחמן argues with רב חסדא and רבה בר רב הונא about decorations hanging four טפחים below the סכך. When רב נחמן hosts them in such a סוכה, they explain that they were exempt as שלוחי מצוה, so they never took back their ruling. Next, שמואל allows sleeping under a כילה in the סוכה if it is under ten טפחים, and the גמרא defends this against several challenges. Along the way it learns that fixed קינופות count as a tent even when low. The amud ends with שמואל's ruling about reciting קריאת שמע with one's head outside a כילה, which the גמרא limits to a כילה lower than ten טפחים.
Opening lines
עַד מוֹצָאֵי יוֹם טוֹב הָאַחֲרוֹן שֶׁל חַג.
until the conclusion of the last festival day of the Festival.
וְאִם הִתְנָה עֲלֵיהֶם —
And if he stipulated regarding them —
הַכֹּל לְפִי תְנָאוֹ.
everything is according to his stipulation.
דִּלְמָא מִן הַצַּד.
Perhaps it is on the side.
The steps (27)
- ProofEnd of the ברייתא: decorations stay until after the festival unless he made a condition
- RejectionRejection: maybe the sheets were hung on the side
- Statementסוכה decorations do not reduce the size of the סוכה
- Statementרב אשי: decorations on the side do reduce the סוכה
- Statementרב אשי tells his servant to take his drying shirt off the סוכה
- ChallengeThe servant objects: people can see the shirt is wet
- Resolutionרב אשי: I mean once it dries
- StatementDispute: decorations hanging four טפחים below the סכך
- Statementרב נחמן hosts his opponents in a סוכה they consider invalid
- Questionרב נחמן asks if they changed their minds
- ResponseThey were exempt anyway as travelers on a מצוה
- StatementSleeping under a low canopy inside the סוכה is allowed
- ChallengeA ברייתא says sleeping under a canopy does not count
- ResolutionThe ברייתא means a canopy ten handbreadths high
- ChallengeThe משנה says sleeping under a bed does not count
- Resolutionשמואל already explained the משנה as a tall bed
- ChallengeA challenge from the canopy over four bed posts
- ResolutionThe posts in that case are ten טפחים high
- ChallengeA ברייתא shows four posts are פסולה even when low
- ResolutionFour posts are different because they are fixed
- ChallengeBut a סוכה on top of a סוכה is fixed and still needs ten
- ResolutionDisqualifying a סוכה needs ten; making a tent does not
- StatementReciting קריאת שמע while sleeping unclothed under a כילה
- ChallengeA ברייתא seems to forbid what שמואל allowed
- ResolutionThe ברייתא speaks of a כילה ten טפחים high
- ProofThe end of the ברייתא compares it to a house, which supports the answer
- ConclusionConclusion: the reading is proven