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Succah 44b

סוכה מ״ד ע״ב

Sukkah 44b

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Topic

The ערבה (its source, rules, שיעור, and no ברכה), teachings of אייבו in the name of רבי אלעזר בר צדוק, and the start of the משנה on the לולב in the מקדש

Overview

This amud opens by settling a contradiction in רבי יוחנן's words. The ערבה in the מקדש is a הלכה למשה מסיני, and the ערבה in the גבולין is a תקנת נביאים. רבי אמי then gives three rules: the ערבה needs a שיעור, it is taken by itself, and the ערבה tied into the לולב does not count, even if the לולב is lifted a second time. רב חסדא in the name of רבי יצחק disagrees. On the שיעור, רב נחמן requires three twigs with moist leaves, and רב ששת requires only one leaf on one twig. Stories about רבי אלעזר בר צדוק and רב show that the ערבה is waved without a ברכה, because it is a מנהג נביאים. Through more teachings from אייבו, the גמרא tells of a man worried about villagers hoeing his groves in שביעית and eating his olives. The גמרא explains that hoeing to seal cracks is permitted. It then gives a rule against traveling more than three פרסאות on ערב שבת, with two versions of רב כהנא's comment. Finally it returns to the משנה about arranging the לולבים on the bench in the מקדש, and רב נחמן's reaction to a recited version continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

כָּאן בַּמִּקְדָּשׁ —

Here, in the Temple;

כָּאן בַּגְּבוּלִין.

there, in the outlying areas.

אָמַר רַבִּי אַמֵּי:

Rabbi Ami said:

עֲרָבָה צְרִיכָה שִׁיעוּר,

The willow requires a minimum measure,

The steps (25)

  1. ResolutionOne statement is about the Temple, the other about the outlying areas
  2. Statementרבי אמי's three rules about the willow
  3. ChallengeIsn't the third rule obvious?
  4. ResolutionThe third rule covers lifting the lulav a second time
  5. Statementרב חסדא in רבי יצחק's name: the לולב's willow does count
  6. QuestionWhat is the willow's minimum size?
  7. Responseרב נחמן: three twigs with moist leaves
  8. Responseרב ששת: even one leaf and one twig
  9. ChallengeA loose leaf and a separate twig? That can't be right
  10. ResolutionCorrect it: even one leaf on one twig
  11. Statementרבי אלעזר בר צדוק waves the willow without a blessing
  12. Statementרב also waves the willow without a blessing
  13. QuestionA landowner asks about villagers working his trees in שביעית
  14. ResponseIt is not proper
  15. StatementThe sage praises the man's honesty
  16. QuestionThe man returns and asks what to do
  17. ResponseMake the olives ownerless and pay workers to hoe
  18. ChallengeBut hoeing is forbidden in שביעית
  19. ResolutionTwo kinds of hoeing
  20. StatementDo not travel more than three פרסאות on Friday
  21. StatementThe limit applies only when going home
  22. StatementSecond version: the rule applies even when going home
  23. Proofרב כהנא's own story: he found no food at home
  24. StatementNew section: quoting the משנה on taking the לולב
  25. StatementA תנא's version: arranging them on the roof of the bench