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Taanis 16b

תענית ט״ז ע״ב

Taanit 16b

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Topic

The fast-day שליח ציבור, the twenty-four ברכות, and how the order differs inside and outside the מקדש

Overview

The גמרא finishes explaining רבי יהודה's list of qualities for a fast-day שליח ציבור. It shows that 'his house is empty' means empty of sin, and it explains 'his youth was pleasant.' A פסוק in ירמיהו about a voice God hates is read as describing an unworthy חזן. Next the גמרא asks how the משנה's six added ברכות fit with its mention of a 'seventh' one. רב נחמן בר יצחק answers that the seventh counts the lengthened ברכת גואל ישראל. A ברייתא then lays out the order: each added ברכה ends with 'He Who answered...', the people respond, and the שופר calls switch between תקיעה and תרועה. Outside the מקדש the people answer אמן. In the מקדש they answer 'ברוך שם כבוד מלכותו', based on a פסוק in נחמיה. When רבי חלפתא and רבי חנניה בן תרדיון used the מקדש order in their towns, the חכמים limited it to the מקדש. Finally the גמרא begins to explain why רבי יהודה leaves out זכרונות and שופרות, and the answer continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

הַיְינוּ ״מְטוּפָּל וְאֵין לוֹ״,

Isn't 'burdened with children and has nothing'

הַיְינוּ ״בֵּיתוֹ רֵיקָם״?

the same as 'his house is empty'?

אָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא:

Rav Chisda said:

זֶהוּ שֶׁבֵּיתוֹ רֵיקָם מִן הָעֲבֵירָה.

This is one whose house is empty of sin.

The steps (34)

  1. ChallengeAren't two of the qualities the same thing?
  2. ResolutionHis house is empty of sin
  3. StatementWhat 'his youth was pleasant' means
  4. QuestionA פסוק about a voice God hates
  5. ResponseAn unworthy חזן
  6. StatementThe משנה: twenty-four ברכות
  7. ChallengeSix or seven extra ברכות?
  8. ResolutionSeventh counting the lengthened ברכה
  9. ProofThe ברייתא about lengthening גואל ישראל
  10. StatementThe first added blessing and the pattern of blasts
  11. StatementThis order is only outside the Temple
  12. QuestionWhat is the source for no Amen in the Temple?
  13. ResponseEvery blessing gets its own praise
  14. QuestionSo what is said in the Temple?
  15. ResponseThe longer Temple ending and response
  16. StatementThe first added blessing and its response
  17. StatementBlasts alternate for every blessing
  18. StatementTwo Sages set up this practice in their towns
  19. ConclusionThe Sages limit this practice to the Temple
  20. StatementA second version: twenty-four blessings
  21. QuestionWhere do the six extra blessings go?
  22. ResponseBetween Redeemer and Healer; Amen outside the Temple
  23. StatementIn the Temple: longer ending, no Amen
  24. QuestionWhy such a big difference?
  25. ResponseBecause Amen is not answered in the Temple
  26. QuestionSource for no Amen in the Temple
  27. ResponseEach blessing gets its own praise
  28. StatementThe first blessing and its trumpet blasts
  29. StatementThe second blessing, and alternating for the rest
  30. StatementTwo רבנים set up this custom in their towns
  31. ConclusionThe חכמים limit the custom to the מקדש
  32. StatementThe גמרא quotes רבי יהודה from the משנה
  33. QuestionWhat is רבי יהודה's reason?
  34. Responseזכרונות and שופרות are said only at certain times