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Yoma 14b

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Yoma 14b: אביי on רבי עקיבא and the הזאה, and the dispute over whether the קטורת or the נרות comes first

Overview

This amud opens by finishing a source about the water used for הזאה. אביי then shows that our משנה can fit even רבי עקיבא's view: they sprinkle on the כהן גדול toward evening, so he is pure again by the next day. The גמרא next asks why our משנה puts the קטורת before cleaning the נרות, while מסכת תמיד puts the מנורה first. רב הונא's answer that תמיד follows רבי שמעון איש המצפה is rejected, and רבי יוחנן says instead that סדר יומא follows him. The same contradiction then appears between two משניות inside יומא itself. אביי answers that the lamps were cleaned in two stages: five lamps before the קטורת and two lamps after it. When this is challenged from אביי's own list of the daily service, the גמרא answers that the list follows אבא שאול and our משנה follows the רבנן, as a ברייתא records. The amud ends with אבא שאול's source in the פסוק and the start of the רבנן's reading of that פסוק, which continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

רָאשֵׁי גִבְעוֹלִין וְיַזֶּה.

the tops of the stems, and sprinkle.

אַבָּיֵי אָמַר:

Abaye said:

אֲפִילּוּ תֵּימָא רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא,

Even if you say it is Rabbi Akiva,

דְּעָבֵיד עֲבוֹדָה כּוּלֵּיהּ יוֹמָא,

for he performs the service the whole day,

The steps (16)

  1. ProofClosing words of the source about the minimum water needed
  2. Resolutionאביי: sprinkle on the High Priest toward evening
  3. StatementOur משנה implies incense comes before the lamps
  4. ChallengeContradiction from מסכת תמיד: the מנורה comes before the incense
  5. Resolutionרב הונא: תמיד follows רבי שמעון איש המצפה
  6. ChallengeChallenge: we know רבי שמעון איש המצפה holds the opposite
  7. ProofThe ברייתא shows רבי שמעון איש המצפה disagrees with תמיד
  8. Resolutionרבי יוחנן: סדר יומא Follows רבי שמעון איש המצפה
  9. ChallengeA Contradiction Between Two משניות Within יומא
  10. Resolutionאביי: Two Lamps Versus Five Lamps
  11. Challengeאביי's Own List Puts the Blood, Not the Incense, Between the Lamps
  12. Resolutionאביי's List Follows אבא שאול, Our משנה Follows the רבנן
  13. ProofThe ברייתא Where the רבנן and אבא שאול Disagree
  14. QuestionWhat is the source for אבא שאול's order?
  15. ResponseThe verse mentions the lamps first, then the burning
  16. QuestionHow do the רבנן read the same verse?