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Zevachim 116b

זבחים קט״ז ע״ב

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Topic

The end of the רחב story, offerings brought by גוים outside the מקדש, דוד's purchase of the altar site, and the camps of the wilderness, ירושלים and שילה.

Overview

The amud opens by finishing the אגדה about רחב הזונה: how she knew the fear of the Canaanite leaders, her age, and her conversion at fifty. The גמרא then learns from 'דבר אל בני ישראל' that the ban on שחוטי חוץ applies only to Jews, so a גוי may offer on his own במה even today. רב אסי says a Jew may not help or act as the גוי's messenger, and רבה says a Jew may still teach him how. The story of רבא and the offering of איפרא הורמיז shows this in practice. אביי asks why רבא required new wood. That question leads to the ברייתא about the 50 and 600 shekels דוד paid ארונה, and to the meaning of the word מוריגים. Next the גמרא explains the משנה that קדשים קלים were eaten throughout the מחנה ישראל in the wilderness: the camp kept its status even while traveling. Finally, רבי שמעון בן יוחאי teaches that שילה had only two camps, and רבה begins proving which camp was missing. That proof continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

דַּאֲפִילּוּ אִקַּשּׁוֹיֵי נָמֵי לָא אִקַּשּׁוּ.

That they could not even become erect.

וּמְנָא יָדְעָה?

And how did she know?

דְּאָמַר מָר:

As the Master said:

אֵין לָךְ כׇּל שַׂר וְנָגִיד

You do not have any prince or ruler

The steps (35)

  1. Resolutionרחב's words mean the men lost all strength
  2. QuestionHow did רחב know this?
  3. ResponseEvery ruler had been with רחב
  4. Statementרחב's age and her תשובה
  5. StatementQuoting the rule that gentiles may sacrifice outside today
  6. QuestionWhat is the source for this rule?
  7. ResponseThe verse speaks only to Israel
  8. StatementA Jew may not help gentiles sacrifice outside
  9. StatementBut a Jew may teach them how
  10. Proofרבא arranges an offering for the Persian queen-mother
  11. Questionאביי asks whose view requires new wood
  12. ChallengeBut רבי אלעזר בן שמוע agrees a במה is different
  13. ProofTwo פסוקים disagree about what דוד paid
  14. ResponseTwo ways to fit the 50 and the 600 together
  15. Proofרבי אלעזר בן שמוע: farm tools were offered as wood
  16. ResolutionDefending רבא: the tools were new
  17. QuestionWhat are מוריגים?
  18. Responseעולא: a טורבל bed
  19. QuestionWhat is a טורבל bed?
  20. Responseאביי: a toothed threshing board
  21. Proofאביי's פסוק: a מורג with teeth
  22. Challengeרבא shows his son two פסוקים that clash
  23. ResolutionFifty from each tribe makes 600
  24. ChallengeBut one says silver and one says gold
  25. ResolutionSilver worth 600 gold shekels
  26. Statementרב הונא explains 'throughout the camp of Israel'
  27. Challengeרב נחמן proves there were camps in the wilderness
  28. ResolutionRereading רב הונא: wherever the camp of Israel is
  29. ChallengeIsn't that obvious?
  30. ResolutionThe meat does not become פסול as יוצא when the camp moves
  31. ChallengeWhy not say the meat really becomes disqualified?
  32. ResolutionThe אהל מועד stays holy even while traveling
  33. StatementAn extra area in ירושלים, and only two camps in שילה
  34. QuestionWhich camp was missing in שילה?
  35. Responseרבה: the מחנה לויה was there