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Zevachim 119a

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Topic

The years of שילה, the source for במות at נוב וגבעון, מעשר שני in that period, and the meaning of מנוחה and נחלה

Overview

This amud finishes a count of years. Verses about דוד and שלמה complete the 57 years of נוב וגבעון, and that leaves 369 years for שילה. The גמרא then asks for the source that במות were allowed in the time of נוב וגבעון. It finds the source in the פסוק 'the rest and the inheritance': the time between the two places was a time when במות were permitted. ריש לקיש asks why the משנה leaves out מעשר שני for נוב וגבעון. רבי יוחנן first ties מעשר שני to the ארון. When ריש לקיש pushes back, רבי יוחנן says instead that the משנה follows רבי שמעון. According to רבי יהודה, מעשר שני was eaten at נוב וגבעון, which counted as a בירה. Finally, the גמרא brings four views on which places the words מנוחה and נחלה refer to. It defends the order of the words for רבי שמעון, and it begins a new question that continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

דִּכְתִיב: ״וְהַיָּמִים אֲשֶׁר מָלַךְ דָּוִד

As it is written: 'And the days that David reigned'

עַל יִשְׂרָאֵל – אַרְבָּעִים שָׁנָה;

over Israel were forty years;

בְּחֶבְרוֹן מָלַךְ שֶׁבַע שָׁנִים [וְגוֹ׳]״.

in Hebron he reigned seven years, etc.'

וּבִשְׁלֹמֹה כְּתִיב:

And regarding Solomon it is written:

The steps (23)

  1. Proofדוד's reign proves part of the נוב וגבעון years
  2. Proofשלמה began building in his fourth year
  3. Conclusionשילה stood for 369 years
  4. QuestionWhat is the source that במות were allowed in נוב וגבעון?
  5. Response'Rest' is שילה and 'inheritance' is ירושלים
  6. QuestionWhy does the פסוק name them separately?
  7. ConclusionThe time between שילה and ירושלים allowed במות
  8. ChallengeWhy doesn't the משנה mention מעשר שני at נוב וגבעון?
  9. Resolutionמעשר שני depends on the ארון
  10. ChallengeThen פסח and other offerings should also need the ארון
  11. ResolutionThe משנה follows רבי שמעון
  12. QuestionSo according to רבי יהודה, were they offered?
  13. ResponseYes: רב אדא בר מתנה's statement
  14. ChallengeBut מעשר שני needs a permanent building
  15. Resolutionרב יוסף: נוב וגבעון counted as a בירה
  16. Conclusionרב יוסף's list is about eating מעשר שני, following רבי יהודה
  17. Statementמנוחה means שילה and נחלה means ירושלים
  18. Statementמנוחה means ירושלים and נחלה means שילה
  19. ChallengeThe verse's order seems wrong for רבי שמעון
  20. ResolutionNot even the lesser place has been reached
  21. StatementThe school of רבי ישמעאל: both words mean שילה
  22. Statementרבי שמעון בן יוחי: both words mean ירושלים
  23. ChallengeOpening a question: it makes sense for the one who says מנוחה is a certain place