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Zevachim 7a

זבחים ז׳ ע״א

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Topic

When a קרבן's atonement begins, slaughtering a תודה for a friend's תודה, and רבא's rulings on a חטאת slaughtered with the wrong type or for the wrong person.

Overview

The amud opens by finishing a proof that a קרבן atones for sins done after it was set aside (הפרשה). The proof comes from the argument between רבי שמעון and the חכמים about redeeming leftover unblemished communal animals. A second proof, from רבי ירמיה's question about the two שעירי עצרת, is rejected: he may have been asking 'אם תימצי לומר'. Next, רבה and רב חסדא argue about a תודה slaughtered for the sake of a friend's תודה. רבה tries to prove from a ברייתא that it is כשרה, but the גמרא shows the ברייתא could be talking about the owner's own other תודה. Then רבא gives a set of rulings about a חטאת. Slaughtered for another חטאת, it is כשרה. Slaughtered for an עולה, it is פסולה. Slaughtered for a person who owes a חטאת, or who seems to owe nothing, it is פסולה. Slaughtered for a person who owes only an עולה, it is כשרה. רבא also says a חטאת atones for missed positive מצוות, and the amud ends with the גמרא asking how that fits his ruling about the person who owes an עולה.

Opening lines

לְדִבְרֵי רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן

According to the words of Rabbi Shimon,

אֵין נִפְדִּין תְּמִימִים,

they are not redeemed while unblemished,

לְדִבְרֵי חֲכָמִים

according to the words of the Sages,

נִפְדִּין תְּמִימִין!

they are redeemed while unblemished!

The steps (18)

  1. ProofEnd of the first proof: רבי שמעון and the חכמים on redeeming unblemished animals
  2. ProofSecond proof: רבי ירמיה's question about the two שעירי עצרת
  3. ProofThe inference: רבי ירמיה only doubted sins done after שחיטה
  4. RejectionRejection: maybe he was asking 'even if you say'
  5. StatementDispute over a thanks offering slaughtered for another person's thanks offering
  6. StatementThe reasoning behind each side
  7. Proofרבה brings a ברייתא about thanks and peace offerings
  8. Proofרבה's inference: a thanks offering for a thanks offering is fit
  9. RejectionNo, it means his own other thanks offering
  10. ChallengeThen the teaching should have used the friend's case
  11. ResolutionThe peace offering case was needed for its own reason
  12. StatementA sin offering for a sin offering is fit, but not for a burnt offering
  13. ResponseThe source for רבא's first ruling
  14. StatementA חטאת slaughtered for a different person
  15. ResponseThe source: "atonement for him"
  16. StatementA חטאת slaughtered for someone who owes nothing
  17. StatementA חטאת also atones for missed positive מצוות
  18. ChallengeThis seems to contradict רבא's ruling about someone who owes an עולה