Avodah Zarah 32b

עבודה זרה ל״ב ע״ב

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Topic

Torn hides, meat entering and leaving a house of עבודה זרה, and business with people going to an idolatrous festival

Overview

This amud finishes the discussion of hides torn opposite the heart, a sign that the animal may have been killed for עבודה זרה. A teaching says a hide with no trace of blood is permitted, and רב הונא limits this to a hide that was never salted, since salt could have drawn out the blood. שמואל rules that the הלכה follows רבן שמעון בן גמליאל, who forbids only a round tear. אביי asks whether that ruling means the חכמים really disagree, and he insists that understanding matters even when the practical law stays the same. Next the גמרא explains the משנה's rule on meat. Meat going into a house of עבודה זרה is permitted, which cannot follow רבי אלעזר. Meat coming out is forbidden, because some of it was surely offered, and this follows רבי יהודה בן בתירא, who compares idolatrous offerings to a מת. Finally, שמואל explains the ban on doing business with people going to a תרפות: for a גוי it applies on the way there, and for a ישראל on the way back, with the reason continuing on the next amud.

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The steps (19)

1. StatementA torn hide with no trace of blood is permitted
2. Statementרב הונא: the leniency applies only if the hide was not salted
3. StatementThe משנה: רבן שמעון בן גמליאל on round versus long tears
4. Statementשמואל rules like רבן שמעון בן גמליאל
5. Questionאביי asks whether the ruling implies a disagreement
6. Rejectionרב יוסף: what difference does it make?
7. Responseאביי: learning is not just singing a tune
8. StatementThe משנה: meat entering a house of עבודה זרה is permitted
9. QuestionWho taught this?
10. ResponseNot like רבי אלעזר, who says a gentile's plain intent is for עבודה זרה
11. StatementMeat coming out of a house of idol worship is forbidden
12. QuestionWhy is the outgoing meat treated as an offering?
13. ResponseIt surely contains an idolatrous offering
14. QuestionWhose opinion is this?
15. ResponseIt follows רבי יהודה בן בתירא
16. ProofThe ברייתא: idolatrous offerings are compared to a dead body
17. StatementNo business with people going to an idolatrous festival
18. Statementשמואל: a גוי on the way there versus on the way back
19. Statementשמואל: a ישראל going to an idolatrous festival is the opposite