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Bava Basra 19b

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Bava Batra 19b

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Topic

Keeping seeds and urine away from a neighbor's wall, and when items placed in a window count as blocking it for טומאה.

Overview

The גמרא first questions whether seeds harm a wall because their roots spread sideways, and רבי חגא explains that planting loosens the soil instead. Next, רבה בר בר חנה allows urinating beside a friend's wall, based on a פסוק. Two challenges are answered by saying those sources mean urine poured from a container. But a ברייתא that clearly forbids urinating near a wall refutes him, and the גמרא reads his פסוק as talking about a dog. Then שמואל teaches that a thin wafer placed in a window does not make the window smaller for the laws of טומאה, because the owner does not give it up for good. The גמרא defends this rule against a משנה about straw and dried figs in a window, explaining that those items are useless (rotten, thorny, wet straw and wormy figs). Finally the גמרא starts asking how the barrel of figs was positioned, and that discussion continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

לִצְדָדִין קָא מִשְׁתָּרְשִׁי?!

Do they really take root to the sides?!

וְהָא תְּנַן:

But didn't we learn:

הַמַּבְרִיךְ אֶת הַגֶּפֶן בָּאָרֶץ,

One who bends a grapevine into the ground,

אִם אֵין עַל גַּבָּהּ עָפָר שְׁלֹשָׁה טְפָחִים –

if there are not three handbreadths of earth on top of it,

The steps (29)

  1. ChallengeDo roots really spread sideways?
  2. ResolutionThe real damage: loosened soil
  3. StatementThe משנה about urine near a wall
  4. StatementUrinating next to a friend's wall is allowed
  5. ChallengeChallenge from the משנה
  6. ResolutionThe משנה means poured urine
  7. ChallengeChallenge from a ברייתא about pouring water
  8. ResolutionThe ברייתא also means pouring
  9. ChallengeA ברייתא that clearly says 'urinate'
  10. Conclusionרבה בר בר חנה is refuted
  11. ChallengeBut he brought a פסוק
  12. ResolutionThe פסוק is talking about a dog
  13. Statementשמואל: a thin wafer does not make a window smaller
  14. ChallengeWhy mention a thin wafer?
  15. ResolutionNot only thick bread, but even a wafer
  16. ChallengeWhy not use the simpler reason that food can become impure?
  17. ResolutionThe wafer was kneaded with fruit juice
  18. ChallengeChallenge from the משנה about straw and figs in a window
  19. ResolutionThe straw is rotten
  20. ChallengeRotten straw is still good for clay
  21. ResolutionThe straw has thorns in it
  22. ChallengeThe straw could still be used to start a fire
  23. ResolutionThe straw is wet
  24. ChallengeWet straw still burns in a big fire
  25. ResolutionBig fires are not common
  26. ChallengeDried figs are surely edible
  27. Resolutionשמואל: the figs are wormy
  28. Proofרבה בר אבוה teaches the same
  29. QuestionHow exactly was the barrel positioned?