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Bava Metzia 79a

בבא מציעא ע״ט ע״א

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Topic

Rented donkeys that get sick or die on the way, רב's rule against using up the principal, and a rented boat that sinks

Overview

This amud finishes a ברייתא about a rented donkey that is taken away, and names רבי שמעון בן אלעזר as its author. The גמרא asks how that fits another ruling of his about a sick donkey. It answers that renting a donkey for riding, or for carrying glass, is different. Next, רב rules that if a riding donkey dies halfway, the renter pays for half the trip and has only a complaint. The גמרא works out the exact case: no donkeys are available, a specific donkey was promised, and its body is worth too little to buy another. It explains that רב holds the principal may not be used up (לא מכלינן קרנא), so the money cannot be spent on renting. That rule is the subject of a dispute with שמואל, who allows it. A ברייתא about a pledged tree that dried up seems to challenge רב, and the גמרא answers in several ways, involving sixty-year sales and יובל. Finally, a new ברייתא brings רבי נתן's ruling on a rented boat that sank halfway, and the גמרא begins testing what kind of deal it means.

Opening lines

דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן אֶלְעָזָר.

These are the words of Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar.

שֶׁהָיָה רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן אֶלְעָזָר אוֹמֵר:

For Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar would say:

אִם בְּדֶרֶךְ הִילּוּכָהּ נִיטְּלָה –

If it was seized and taken along the way it was going,

אוֹמֵר לוֹ: הֲרֵי שֶׁלְּךָ לְפָנֶיךָ,

the owner says to him: Yours is before you,

The steps (24)

  1. StatementThe ברייתא's ruling on a seized donkey belongs to רבי שמעון בן אלעזר
  2. ChallengeChallenge: the first part of the ברייתא contradicts רבי שמעון בן אלעזר
  3. ResolutionAnswer: renting a donkey for riding is a different case
  4. StatementCarrying glass vessels counts like riding
  5. StatementA riding donkey that dies halfway through the trip
  6. ChallengeWhy would the renter complain, and why would he pay?
  7. ResolutionNo donkeys available, but he still pays for the distance traveled
  8. ChallengeWhat kind of donkey was promised?
  9. ResolutionThe dead donkey is not worth enough to buy another
  10. ChallengeThen let him rent a donkey with the money
  11. Resolutionרב's rule: we do not use up the principal
  12. ProofThe source for רב's view: the donkey that died halfway
  13. QuestionWhat is the root of their disagreement?
  14. ResponseMay the principal be used up?
  15. ChallengeChallenge from the dried-up tree
  16. ResolutionThe land was bought for sixty years
  17. ProofProof that a sale for a fixed time does not return at יובל
  18. ChallengeEven a sixty-year sale ends and the land goes back
  19. ResolutionThe ברייתא means a time when יובל is not in effect
  20. ProofSupport: otherwise just chop the tree for firewood
  21. RejectionEven with יובל, the principal is not always used up
  22. Statementרבי נתן on a rented boat that sank halfway
  23. ChallengeWhat case? A specific boat with any wine does not fit
  24. ChallengeAny boat with specific wine does not fit either